BY YOUR FAVORITE NOW OUR NATION'S OVERDOSE CRISIS OUR NATION'S OVERDOSE CRISIS IS EVOLVING. IS EVOLVING. ZILE ISIN A HORSE TRANQUILIZER ZILE ISIN A HORSE TRANQUILIZER KNOWN ON THE STREETS AS TRANQ KNOWN ON THE STREETS AS TRANQ IS BEING ADDED TO DRUGS LIKE IS BEING ADDED TO DRUGS LIKE COCAINE HEROIN AND FENTANYL. COCAINE HEROIN AND FENTANYL. PEOPLE BUYING THE DRUGS PEOPLE BUYING THE DRUGS ARE SOMETIMES UNAWARE OF THE ARE SOMETIMES UNAWARE OF THE DANGEROUS MIXTURE THAT CAN HAVE DANGEROUS MIXTURE THAT CAN HAVE DEADLY RESULTS. DEADLY RESULTS. OUR OPTIONS SINGH HAS THE STORY FOR IT. LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT LIKE LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT LIKE A MOBILE CLINIC IN THE TRUNK A MOBILE CLINIC IN THE TRUNK OF YOUR CAR HERE NOWADAYS OF YOUR CAR HERE NOWADAYS IS EVERYWHERE. IS EVERYWHERE. KATIE STEPHANIE CLIP ARE NOT KATIE STEPHANIE CLIP ARE NOT YOUR TYPICAL NURSES. YOUR TYPICAL NURSES. DAY AFTER DAY THEY PACK UP DAY AFTER DAY THEY PACK UP THEIR SUPPLIES, ETC. TO THESE THEIR SUPPLIES, ETC. TO THESE FORGOTTEN STREETS OF THE FORGOTTEN STREETS OF THE INFAMOUS KENSINGTON INFAMOUS KENSINGTON NEIGHBORHOOD IN PHILADELPHIA, NEIGHBORHOOD IN PHILADELPHIA, ALREADY KNOWN AS A HOTBED ALREADY KNOWN AS A HOTBED OF THE OPIOID CRISIS, MANY OF THE OPIOID CRISIS, MANY PEOPLE HERE INJECT OPEN AND NOW PEOPLE HERE INJECT OPEN AND NOW THE AREA IS BEING RAVAGED BY. THE AREA IS BEING RAVAGED BY. AN INSIDIOUS DRUG CALLED AN INSIDIOUS DRUG CALLED SILENCE OR TRENCH. SILENCE OR TRENCH. A CHEAP AND POWERFUL HORSE A CHEAP AND POWERFUL HORSE TRANQUILIZER APPROVED BY THE TRANQUILIZER APPROVED BY THE FDA FOR VETERINARY USE ONLY. FDA FOR VETERINARY USE ONLY. BUT SOME DEALERS HERE BUT SOME DEALERS HERE AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE MIXING IT INTO COMMON ARE MIXING IT INTO COMMON STREET DRUGS LIKE HEROIN, STREET DRUGS LIKE HEROIN, COCAINE AND, FENTANYL, COCAINE AND, FENTANYL, TO INCREASE PROFITS. TO INCREASE PROFITS. ACCORDING TO THE DEA, ACCORDING TO THE DEA, A POWERFUL DRUG MIXTURE DUBBED A POWERFUL DRUG MIXTURE DUBBED THE ZOMBIE DRUG IS ITS WAY THE ZOMBIE DRUG IS ITS WAY AROUND CALIFORNIA. AROUND CALIFORNIA. THE DRUG HAS MADE ITS WAY NOW THE DRUG HAS MADE ITS WAY NOW TO ALABAMA IS SEEN IS CREEPING TO ALABAMA IS SEEN IS CREEPING INTO THE TWIN CITIES STREET INTO THE TWIN CITIES STREET DRUG SUPPLY AT A RATE THAT'S DRUG SUPPLY AT A RATE THAT'S ALARMING LAW ENFORCEMENT ALARMING LAW ENFORCEMENT STRENGTH, WHETHER SMOKED, STRENGTH, WHETHER SMOKED, SNORTED OR INJECTED CAN MAKE SNORTED OR INJECTED CAN MAKE USERS APPEAR ZOMBIE, AS SOME USERS APPEAR ZOMBIE, AS SOME SAY. SAY. IT'S LIKE THEY'RE IN A TRANCE, IT'S LIKE THEY'RE IN A TRANCE, BUT THEY ALSO OFTEN DEVELOP BUT THEY ALSO OFTEN DEVELOP GRUESOME WOUNDS ON THEIR SKIN. GRUESOME WOUNDS ON THEIR SKIN. FOR KATIE AND STEPHANIE, FOR KATIE AND STEPHANIE, IT'S LIKE NOTHING THEY'VE EVER IT'S LIKE NOTHING THEY'VE EVER SEEN IN POPPED OUT OF YOUR SEEN IN POPPED OUT OF YOUR CAR TO ADMINISTER TREATMENT. CAR TO ADMINISTER TREATMENT. >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. LIKE MULTIPLE TIMES. LIKE MULTIPLE TIMES. WHETHER IT'S REVERSING AN WHETHER IT'S REVERSING AN OVERDOSE YOU KNOW, WE TRY OVERDOSE YOU KNOW, WE TRY AND DO IT ALL, BUT YOU AND DO IT ALL, BUT YOU WILL NEVER FEEL IT'S ENOUGH WILL NEVER FEEL IT'S ENOUGH DISTURBING SCENES PLAY OUT HERE DISTURBING SCENES PLAY OUT HERE . . JUST STEPS AWAY FROM JUST STEPS AWAY FROM OUR INTERVIEW WITH A YOUNG OUR INTERVIEW WITH A YOUNG WOMAN OVERDOSES. WOMAN OVERDOSES. KATIE SPRINGS INTO ACTION, KATIE SPRINGS INTO ACTION, REVIVING HER WITH NARCAN REVIVING HER WITH NARCAN AND RUSHING HER TO AND RUSHING HER TO A NEIGHBORHOOD OUTPOST CALLED A NEIGHBORHOOD OUTPOST CALLED SAVAGE SISTERS. SAVAGE SISTERS. >> INSIDE, SHE'S STILL SLUMPED >> INSIDE, SHE'S STILL SLUMPED OVER AND NEARLY UNRESPONSIVE, OVER AND NEARLY UNRESPONSIVE, LIKELY FROM TRANK. LIKELY FROM TRANK. TODAY, SHE'S ONE OF THE LUCKY TODAY, SHE'S ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES WHO SURVIVES. ONES WHO SURVIVES. >> THAT WAS AND WAS PUT INTO >> THAT WAS AND WAS PUT INTO THE SUPPLY TO EXTEND THE SUPPLY TO EXTEND THE EUPHORIA AND THE HIGH THE EUPHORIA AND THE HIGH FEELING FOR INDIVIDUALS FEELING FOR INDIVIDUALS CONSUMING THAT DOPE. CONSUMING THAT DOPE. NOBODY ASKED FOR THIS. NOBODY ASKED FOR THIS. NOBODY KNEW THAT THIS WAS NOBODY KNEW THAT THIS WAS BEING ADULTERATED INTO BEING ADULTERATED INTO OUR SUPPLY. OUR SUPPLY. >> A RECORD 1276 ON INTENTIONAL >> A RECORD 1276 ON INTENTIONAL OVERDOSE DEATHS HAPPENED OVERDOSE DEATHS HAPPENED IN PHILLY IN 2021. IN PHILLY IN 2021. DOWSING WAS FOUND IN MORE THAN DOWSING WAS FOUND IN MORE THAN A THIRD OF THEM. A THIRD OF THEM. THAT'S UP 39% FROM THE YEAR THAT'S UP 39% FROM THE YEAR BEFORE. BEFORE. >> OR OVERDOSE RESPONSE HAS HAD >> OR OVERDOSE RESPONSE HAS HAD TO CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY. TO CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY. WE CAN'T JUST POP NAKANO WE CAN'T JUST POP NAKANO PEOPLE NOW. PEOPLE NOW. WE HAVE TO DO LOTS OF RESCUE WE HAVE TO DO LOTS OF RESCUE BREATHING BECAUSE OF THE TRAIN BREATHING BECAUSE OF THE TRAIN THAT'S COMING. THAT'S COMING. SO GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY SO GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY OVERDOSE LOOKS ACROSS OVERDOSE LOOKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHEN IT BECOMES THE COUNTRY WHEN IT BECOMES MORE OR IF THE RADIOLOGY MORE OR IF THE RADIOLOGY AND CARDIOLOGY AND I ALSO WAS AND CARDIOLOGY AND I ALSO WAS A DRUG COUNSELOR FOR FIVE YEARS A DRUG COUNSELOR FOR FIVE YEARS I WAS CLEANING HER WHILE BEFORE I WAS CLEANING HER WHILE BEFORE THIS VORTEX. THIS VORTEX. >> THIS IS FROM ATTENDING >> THIS IS FROM ATTENDING DAMAGE YOU'RE GONNA BE LIKE DAMAGE YOU'RE GONNA BE LIKE AND IT'LL JUST LIKE IT'LL, JUST AND IT'LL JUST LIKE IT'LL, JUST FALL DOWN. FALL DOWN. THIS IS A GOOD DAY. THIS IS A GOOD DAY. SOMETIMES I ONLY HAVE FEATURE SOMETIMES I ONLY HAVE FEATURE YEARS. YEARS. THEY GET EXPENSIVE, THEY COME THEY GET EXPENSIVE, THEY COME OVER THE ENTIRE LIMB, FULL OVER THE ENTIRE LIMB, FULL FOREARMS, FULL LENGTH LEGS, FOREARMS, FULL LENGTH LEGS, ALL CAPS, ALL OF THE HANDS TOP. ALL CAPS, ALL OF THE HANDS TOP. SO EXTENSIVE, EXTENSIVE ONES, SO EXTENSIVE, EXTENSIVE ONES, LIKE OPEN AND A DIRTY LIKE OPEN AND A DIRTY ENVIRONMENT. ENVIRONMENT. >> IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING >> IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING GETTING MY BACK. GETTING MY BACK. >> I LOOK AT IT JUST THE WAY >> I LOOK AT IT JUST THE WAY SARAH LAUREL HEADS UP SAVAGE SARAH LAUREL HEADS UP SAVAGE SISTERS. SISTERS. SHE ONCE RAN ON THE SAME SHE ONCE RAN ON THE SAME STREETS WHILE SHE WAS IN THE STREETS WHILE SHE WAS IN THE GRIPS OF A HEROIN ADDICTION GRIPS OF A HEROIN ADDICTION UNTIL SHE ENTERED RECOVERY UNTIL SHE ENTERED RECOVERY SIX YEARS AGO. SIX YEARS AGO. >> THEN WE STARTED WOUNDS >> THEN WE STARTED WOUNDS AS WOUNDS WORSENED AS WOUNDS WORSENED WITH INFECTION, THEY BECOME WITH INFECTION, THEY BECOME NECROTIC AND LEAD NECROTIC AND LEAD TO AMPUTATION. TO AMPUTATION. >> SOME PEOPLE WHO USE TRAINING >> SOME PEOPLE WHO USE TRAINING CAN BECOME TRAPPED IN A CYCLE CAN BECOME TRAPPED IN A CYCLE OF DARKNESS WHERE PAINFUL OF DARKNESS WHERE PAINFUL WITHDRAWALS SEND THEM RUNNING WITHDRAWALS SEND THEM RUNNING BACK TO THE DRUG FOR RELIEF. BACK TO THE DRUG FOR RELIEF. >> THOSE IN RECOVERY SAY >> THOSE IN RECOVERY SAY THAT DETOX FROM TRANQ THAT DETOX FROM TRANQ IS EXCEPTIONALLY GRUELING. IS EXCEPTIONALLY GRUELING. >> LIKE JOSE CASTILLO, ONCE >> LIKE JOSE CASTILLO, ONCE HOMELESS AND BATTLING HOMELESS AND BATTLING ADDICTION, HE NOW WORKS ADDICTION, HE NOW WORKS WITH SAVAGE SISTERS. WITH SAVAGE SISTERS. >> MY DETOX WAS I CAN'T EVEN >> MY DETOX WAS I CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE BECAUSE IT WAS TO THE DESCRIBE BECAUSE IT WAS TO THE POINT WHERE I DIDN'T THINK POINT WHERE I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH I WAS GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH IT. IT. IF THE SICKNESS LONGER IF THE SICKNESS LONGER AND THERE'S NO TYPE OF MEDICINE AND THERE'S NO TYPE OF MEDICINE THEY'RE GIVING YOU THAT'S THEY'RE GIVING YOU THAT'S HELPING. HELPING. >> SO IT WAS LIKE, I DON'T >> SO IT WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. KNOW. IT'S -- IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT IT'S -- IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME FRANK AND THE HORRORS BALLGAME FRANK AND THE HORRORS IT BRINGS IS NOW GOING BEYOND IT BRINGS IS NOW GOING BEYOND THE STREETS. THE STREETS. >> PHILADELPHIA. >> PHILADELPHIA. TRANQ HAS BEEN DETECTED IN AT TRANQ HAS BEEN DETECTED IN AT LEAST 48 STATES, ACCORDING LEAST 48 STATES, ACCORDING TO THE CDC OVERDOSE INVOLVING TO THE CDC OVERDOSE INVOLVING PSILOCYBIN WERE 35 TIMES HIGHER PSILOCYBIN WERE 35 TIMES HIGHER IN 2021 THAN THEY WERE IN 2018. IN 2021 THAN THEY WERE IN 2018. THE WHITE HOUSE, THE ALARM THE WHITE HOUSE, THE ALARM DECLARING DOWSING MIXED DECLARING DOWSING MIXED WITH ILLICIT AN EMERGING THREAT WITH ILLICIT AN EMERGING THREAT TO THE U.S. THIS PAST APRIL. TO THE U.S. THIS PAST APRIL. WHILE OPIOIDS LIKE FENTANYL NOT WHILE OPIOIDS LIKE FENTANYL NOT SHRINK, ARE CAUSING SHRINK, ARE CAUSING THE MAJORITY OF OVERDOSE THE MAJORITY OF OVERDOSE DEATHS, SCHRANK MAKES DEATHS, SCHRANK MAKES THE DRUGS. THE DRUGS. IT'S COMBINED WITH MORE DEADLY. IT'S COMBINED WITH MORE DEADLY. AND THE NUMBERS POINT TO THE AND THE NUMBERS POINT TO THE GREATEST INCREASE IN VIOLENCE GREATEST INCREASE IN VIOLENCE IN POSITIVE DEATHS IN THE SOUTH IN POSITIVE DEATHS IN THE SOUTH . . >> IN RURAL GREENVILLE, NORTH >> IN RURAL GREENVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. CAROLINA. PORCHES, YOUR PORCHES. PORCHES, YOUR PORCHES. MY WAREHOUSE. MY WAREHOUSE. >> SO THIS WAS ALL DELIVERED >> SO THIS WAS ALL DELIVERED YESTERDAY. YESTERDAY. 77-YEAR-OLD DIANE CARDON IS ON 77-YEAR-OLD DIANE CARDON IS ON A MISSION THAT'S DEEPLY A MISSION THAT'S DEEPLY PERSONAL. PERSONAL. >> THIS IS MY GOAL BASICALLY >> THIS IS MY GOAL BASICALLY ALMOST FROM BIRTH. ALMOST FROM BIRTH. UP UNTIL WHEN HE PASSED. UP UNTIL WHEN HE PASSED. >> RUNNING ACRONYM FOR CHANGE >> RUNNING ACRONYM FOR CHANGE AN ORGANIZATION IN HONOR OF HER AN ORGANIZATION IN HONOR OF HER SON WHO DIED OF AN OVERDOSE. SON WHO DIED OF AN OVERDOSE. IT'S THE ONLY NEEDLE IN THE IT'S THE ONLY NEEDLE IN THE AREA FOR HUNDREDS OF MILES. AREA FOR HUNDREDS OF MILES. >> MY SON WAS ADDICTED >> MY SON WAS ADDICTED TO HEROIN. TO HEROIN. IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME TO WHAT I COULD DO TO HELP HIM. TO WHAT I COULD DO TO HELP HIM. HE HELPED ME TO UNDERSTAND HE HELPED ME TO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT JUST ENOUGH TO SAY, IT'S NOT JUST ENOUGH TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET ME GET YOU YOU KNOW, LET ME GET YOU SOME HELP. SOME HELP. WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? WOULD YOU RATHER DO SOMETHING WOULD YOU RATHER DO SOMETHING ELSE? ELSE? YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE WHOLE PERSON. CARE OF THE WHOLE PERSON. >> WHAT HASN'T? >> WHAT HASN'T? BEING ABLE TO START AT HOME FOR BEING ABLE TO START AT HOME FOR CHANGE MEANT FOR YOU. CHANGE MEANT FOR YOU. HAS IT HELPED YOU HEAL? HAS IT HELPED YOU HEAL? YEAH. YEAH. I THINK. I THINK. SO. SO. I FEEL LIKE THAT I'M I FEEL LIKE THAT I'M CONTRIBUTING SOMETHING TO AN CONTRIBUTING SOMETHING TO AN UNDERSERVED POPULATION HERE UNDERSERVED POPULATION HERE AND THE SAME TIME HONORING AND THE SAME TIME HONORING MY SON. MY SON. >> YOU WRAPPING UP A COMMUNITY >> YOU WRAPPING UP A COMMUNITY OVER THERE? OVER THERE? YEAH. YEAH. REGULAR DOES EVERY DAY. REGULAR DOES EVERY DAY. >> ONCE A DAY OR TWICE IN A >> ONCE A DAY OR TWICE IN A YEAR. YEAR. RIGHT HERE. RIGHT HERE. DIANE DOES MUCH OF THIS WORK DIANE DOES MUCH OF THIS WORK ON HER OWN AND OUT OF HER OWN ON HER OWN AND OUT OF HER OWN POCKET, SERVING NEARLY POCKET, SERVING NEARLY 100 PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS 100 PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS WEEKLY. WEEKLY. >> SHE SAYS THEY'RE ALARMED >> SHE SAYS THEY'RE ALARMED THE TREND CREEPING INTO THE TREND CREEPING INTO THEIR SUPPLY. THEIR SUPPLY. >> THEY'RE SAYING, I DON'T WANT >> THEY'RE SAYING, I DON'T WANT BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF WHAT BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF WHAT THE SIDE EFFECTS ARE. THE SIDE EFFECTS ARE. IF THE PARTICIPANTS COME IN AND IF THE PARTICIPANTS COME IN AND WANT US TO TEST THEIR DRUG, WANT US TO TEST THEIR DRUG, WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE IT, TEST WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE IT, TEST AND THEN SEND IT TO YOU AND SEE AND THEN SEND IT TO YOU AND SEE SO THEY CAN TELL US EXACTLY SO THEY CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT'S IN IT. WHAT'S IN IT. >> YES, IT HAS TO BE PERFECT >> YES, IT HAS TO BE PERFECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT. THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT. AND THAT BOX THERE LIVES CURFEW AND THAT BOX THERE LIVES CURFEW IN IT. IN IT. >> THE DEMAND FOR TESTING IS SO >> THE DEMAND FOR TESTING IS SO GREAT. GREAT. EVEN NEIGHBORING COUNTIES SEND EVEN NEIGHBORING COUNTIES SEND SAMPLES HERE. SAMPLES HERE. >> THEY GIVE IT WITH HANDY >> THEY GIVE IT WITH HANDY DANDY TO WRAP AROUND IT, JUST DANDY TO WRAP AROUND IT, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOOD, TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOOD, INCLUDING WHAT WE'RE FINDING INCLUDING WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS 20 TO 23% OF WHAT WE SEND IS 20 TO 23% OF WHAT WE SEND IN DOES HAVE XYLOPHONE IN IT. IN DOES HAVE XYLOPHONE IN IT. WE HAVE SAMPLES COMING FROM WE HAVE SAMPLES COMING FROM 2000 PROGRAMS IN NORTH 2000 PROGRAMS IN NORTH CAROLINA, EVERY CORNER OF THE CAROLINA, EVERY CORNER OF THE STATE. STATE. BUT WE ALSO SAMPLES COMING FROM BUT WE ALSO SAMPLES COMING FROM ABOUT 110 PROGRAMS ACROSS ABOUT 110 PROGRAMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE COUNTRY. DR.. DR.. IN THIS, GUPTA, A LEADING IN THIS, GUPTA, A LEADING DRUG RESEARCHER, LAUNCHED DRUG RESEARCHER, LAUNCHED THE STREET DRUG ANALYSIS LAB THE STREET DRUG ANALYSIS LAB AT UNC-CHAPEL HILL IN 2020. AT UNC-CHAPEL HILL IN 2020. >> IT'S LITERALLY LIKE OLD >> IT'S LITERALLY LIKE OLD SCHOOL. SCHOOL. >> THEY LITERALLY HAVE A FOUR >> THEY LITERALLY HAVE A FOUR YEAR OLD. YEAR OLD. >> EVERYTHING FROM SUBSTANCES. >> EVERYTHING FROM SUBSTANCES. THE KIDS THAT DIANE AND HER THE KIDS THAT DIANE AND HER TEAM SEND GET PROCESSED HERE. TEAM SEND GET PROCESSED HERE. >> WE HAVE WHY ARE THESE PLACES >> WE HAVE WHY ARE THESE PLACES YOU SAMPLES AND THE DRUG SUPPLY YOU SAMPLES AND THE DRUG SUPPLY RIGHT NOW IS SO VARIABLE RIGHT NOW IS SO VARIABLE THAT THERE'S A GENUINE NEED THAT THERE'S A GENUINE NEED TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY TAKING SAMPLES ARE ACTUALLY TAKING SAMPLES OF STREET DRUGS FLOODING OF STREET DRUGS FLOODING IN FROM 29 STATES AND COUNTING IN FROM 29 STATES AND COUNTING IN THIS SET OF PACKAGES. IN THIS SET OF PACKAGES. >> WE'VE GOT THAT COME FROM >> WE'VE GOT THAT COME FROM MICHIGAN AND COME FROM FLORIDA. MICHIGAN AND COME FROM FLORIDA. WE DIRECTLY WITH HARM REDUCTION WE DIRECTLY WITH HARM REDUCTION PROGRAMS AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS PROGRAMS AND HEALTH DEPARTMENTS WHO CAN MESSAGE THE RESULTS WHO CAN MESSAGE THE RESULTS BACK AND PROVIDE BACK AND PROVIDE THE INDIVIDUALS SUPPORT THE INDIVIDUALS SUPPORT SERVICES. SERVICES. SO THIS ONE IS EXPECTED TO BE SO THIS ONE IS EXPECTED TO BE VALID. VALID. AND THE SENSATIONS THAT ARE AND THE SENSATIONS THAT ARE BEING DESCRIBED IS THAT IT BEING DESCRIBED IS THAT IT CAUSES A HEAVY SEDATION. CAUSES A HEAVY SEDATION. >> THIS IS THE INSTRUMENTS >> THIS IS THE INSTRUMENTS AND IT CAN SEPARATE AND IT CAN SEPARATE AND IDENTIFY COMPONENTS IN A AND IDENTIFY COMPONENTS IN A MIXTURE. MIXTURE. INCREDIBLY SENSITIVE INCREDIBLY SENSITIVE AND SPECIFIC RESULTS ARE ADDED AND SPECIFIC RESULTS ARE ADDED TO THE LABS WEBSITE. TO THE LABS WEBSITE. >> DAILY KEEPING STATES AND >> DAILY KEEPING STATES AND COMMUNITY GROUPS UP TO DATE COMMUNITY GROUPS UP TO DATE WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THE STREET. ON THE STREET. WHEN COMES TO SORT OF THIS WHEN COMES TO SORT OF THIS UPTICK IN TRAFFIC, WHERE DO UPTICK IN TRAFFIC, WHERE DO YOU THINK IT GOES FROM HERE? YOU THINK IT GOES FROM HERE? DO YOU SEE IT SHOWING UP WITH? DO YOU SEE IT SHOWING UP WITH? METHAMPHETAMINE WE SEE METHAMPHETAMINE WE SEE AND SPREADING FROM THE OPIOIDS AND SPREADING FROM THE OPIOIDS TO STIMULANTS, AND WE EXPECT TO STIMULANTS, AND WE EXPECT THAT WILL HAPPEN MORE AND MORE. THAT WILL HAPPEN MORE AND MORE. WE DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE WE DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE DYING WITH PSILOCYBIN ARE DYING WITH PSILOCYBIN IN THEIR BODIES. IN THEIR BODIES. THE TIME OF AUTOPSY. THE TIME OF AUTOPSY. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A TOXIC WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A TOXIC AMOUNT ZYL IS. AMOUNT ZYL IS. >> EVEN IS. >> EVEN IS. DOCTOR THAT'S GUPTA BELIEVES DOCTOR THAT'S GUPTA BELIEVES THE CUTTING EDGE EFFORT CAN THE CUTTING EDGE EFFORT CAN HELP SAVE LIVES. HELP SAVE LIVES. ALL THE INFORMATION WE ALL THE INFORMATION WE GET BEFOREHAND IS ONLY WHEN GET BEFOREHAND IS ONLY WHEN IT'S TOO LATE. IT'S TOO LATE. WHEN PEOPLE ARE EITHER ARRESTED WHEN PEOPLE ARE EITHER ARRESTED OR, THEY'RE DEAD. OR, THEY'RE DEAD. AND THOSE INFORMATION SYSTEMS AND THOSE INFORMATION SYSTEMS ARE TOO SLOW FOR HEALTH. ARE TOO SLOW FOR HEALTH. HOW IS HOUSING SHIFTED HOW IS HOUSING SHIFTED THE LANDSCAPE SO THAT WE THE LANDSCAPE SO THAT WE ARE ONCE AGAIN BEHIND ARE ONCE AGAIN BEHIND THE CURVE? THE CURVE? >> I THINK WE WERE CAUGHT FLAT >> I THINK WE WERE CAUGHT FLAT FOOTED WITH ZONES REALLY FOOTED WITH ZONES REALLY IMPACTING HOW PEOPLE IMPACTING HOW PEOPLE GET MEDICAL CARE AND HOW GET MEDICAL CARE AND HOW PEOPLE RECOVER FROM ADDICTION PEOPLE RECOVER FROM ADDICTION AND THE WOUNDS BECAUSE AND THE WOUNDS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO DRAMATIC LOOKING. THEY'RE SO DRAMATIC LOOKING. A LOT OF DRUG TREATMENT CENTERS A LOT OF DRUG TREATMENT CENTERS LET PEOPLE IN WITH THOSE WELLS. LET PEOPLE IN WITH THOSE WELLS. SO THEN YOU HAVE FOLKS IN A SO THEN YOU HAVE FOLKS IN A CATCH 22, RIGHT, WHILE CATCH 22, RIGHT, WHILE THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY IS STILL THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY IS STILL THE IMPACT TRANK HAS ON PEOPLE. THE IMPACT TRANK HAS ON PEOPLE. >> EXPERTS LIKE DR. DASGUPTA >> EXPERTS LIKE DR. DASGUPTA AGREE THAT IT'S COMPLICATING AN AGREE THAT IT'S COMPLICATING AN ALREADY DIRE OVERDOSE THAT'S ALREADY DIRE OVERDOSE THAT'S KILLING MORE THAN 100,000 KILLING MORE THAN 100,000 AMERICANS EVERY YEAR. AMERICANS EVERY YEAR. >> I'VE BEEN STUDYING OVERDOSE >> I'VE BEEN STUDYING OVERDOSE FOR 20 YEARS. FOR 20 YEARS. THEN, LIKE EVERY COUPLE THEN, LIKE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, I WAS LIKE, WOW, THIS OF YEARS, I WAS LIKE, WOW, THIS IS AS AS IT'S GOING TO GET IS AS AS IT'S GOING TO GET RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THEN THE OVERDOSES WENT UP AND THEN THE OVERDOSES WENT UP ANOTHER SIX FOLD, SEVEN FOLD ANOTHER SIX FOLD, SEVEN FOLD AS A SOCIETY. AS A SOCIETY. WE'VE TOO MANY EMPTY SEATS WE'VE TOO MANY EMPTY SEATS AT THANKSGIVING. AT THANKSGIVING. WE'VE HAD TOO MANY WE'VE HAD TOO MANY PEOPLE MISSING FROM OUR LIVES. PEOPLE MISSING FROM OUR LIVES. WE HAVE TO ADMIT THAT 100,000 WE HAVE TO ADMIT THAT 100,000 PEOPLE A YEAR DYING IS NOT OKAY PEOPLE A YEAR DYING IS NOT OKAY . . WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO NEW WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO NEW SOLUTIONS OR ELSE WE'RE JUST SOLUTIONS OR ELSE WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO GET OF THIS. NOT GOING TO GET OF THIS. >> OUR THANKS TO ASHTON. >> OUR THANKS TO ASHTON. STILL MUCH MORE TO GET TO. STILL MUCH MORE TO GET TO. COMING UP, PARENTING CAN BE A COMING UP, PARENTING CAN BE A MAJOR CHALLENGE AND SOME MAJOR CHALLENGE AND SOME CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT A LITTLE HELP. A LITTLE HELP. WHY SO MANY MOMS ARE NOW WHY SO MANY MOMS ARE NOW TURNING TO MAGIC MUSHROOMS. TURNING TO MAGIC MUSHROOMS. BUT NEXT, MORE ARE USING BUT NEXT, MORE ARE USING DYNAMIC PRICING AND THERE'S NO DYNAMIC PRICING AND THERE'S NO END IN SIGHT. END IN SIGHT. WE TAKE A CLOSER LRE STREAMING A END IN SIGHT. WE TAKE A CLOSER LRE STREAMING C END IN SIGHT. WE TAKE A CLOSER LRE STREAMING N END IN SIGHT. WE TAKE A CLOSER LRE STREAMING W END IN SIGHT. WE TAKE A CLOSER LRE STREAMING . WE TAKE A CLOSER LRE STREAMING . >> WELCOME BACK. >> WELCOME BACK. YOU KNOW, IT'S BY PRODUCT YOU KNOW, IT'S BY PRODUCT OF THE APP ECONOMY, BUT SEARCH OF THE APP ECONOMY, BUT SEARCH PRICING, ALSO KNOWN AS PRICING PRICING, ALSO KNOWN AS PRICING IS HERE. IS HERE. AND THE BAD NEWS, IT'S HERE AND THE BAD NEWS, IT'S HERE TO STAY. TO STAY. >> HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK BY THE >> HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK BY THE NUMBERS. NUMBERS. IT WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT 1980 WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT 1980 WHEN MODERN DAY SURGE PRICING MODERN DAY SURGE PRICING AND YOU CAN THANK THE BIG AND YOU CAN THANK THE BIG AIRLINES WHO STARTED PUSHING UP AIRLINES WHO STARTED PUSHING UP PRICES ON BOOKING AND TRAVEL PRICES ON BOOKING AND TRAVEL TIMES. TIMES. BUT IT WAS THE 2009 ARRIVAL BUT IT WAS THE 2009 ARRIVAL OF THE RIDE SHARING APP UBER, OF THE RIDE SHARING APP UBER, THAT REALLY PUT SURGE PRICING THAT REALLY PUT SURGE PRICING IN THE SPOTLIGHT. IN THE SPOTLIGHT. IT'S BASIC SUPPLY AND DEMAND, IT'S BASIC SUPPLY AND DEMAND, BUT THAT'S A TOUGH SELL WHEN BUT THAT'S A TOUGH SELL WHEN IT'S POURING ON NEW YEAR'S EVE IT'S POURING ON NEW YEAR'S EVE AND YOU'RE FORCED TO PAY UP AND YOU'RE FORCED TO PAY UP TO FOUR TIMES A RIDE ITS NORMAL TO FOUR TIMES A RIDE ITS NORMAL RATE. RATE. TICKETMASTER SAW AN OPENING TICKETMASTER SAW AN OPENING TO TAP DYNAMIC MARKETPLACE TO TAP DYNAMIC MARKETPLACE AND SOON TICKETS TO SPRINGSTEEN AND SOON TICKETS TO SPRINGSTEEN HIT THOUSAND DOLLARS APIECE, HIT THOUSAND DOLLARS APIECE, MUCH TO THE BOSS'S CHAGRIN, MUCH TO THE BOSS'S CHAGRIN, USER ALGORITHMS AND ARTIFICIAL USER ALGORITHMS AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE DRIVE AMAZON INTELLIGENCE DRIVE AMAZON TO CHANGE PRICES EVERY TO CHANGE PRICES EVERY 10 MINUTES. 10 MINUTES. THAT'S 2.5 MILLION PRICE THAT'S 2.5 MILLION PRICE CHANGES A DAY. CHANGES A DAY. RETAIL COULD BE THE NEXT SURGE RETAIL COULD BE THE NEXT SURGE PRICING FRONTIER. PRICING FRONTIER. WALMART IS ROLLING OUT DIGITAL WALMART IS ROLLING OUT DIGITAL TAGS AT 500 U.S. STORES TAGS AT 500 U.S. STORES THAT THEY HOPE WILL MAKE EASIER THAT THEY HOPE WILL MAKE EASIER TO CHANGE PRICES ON A WHIM. TO CHANGE PRICES ON A WHIM. AND FORGET HAPPY HOUR. AND FORGET HAPPY HOUR. THOSE DISCOUNT DRINKS ARE NO THOSE DISCOUNT DRINKS ARE NO MORE AT 800 PUBS AFTER MORE AT 800 PUBS AFTER BRITAIN'S BIGGEST BAR OWNER BRITAIN'S BIGGEST BAR OWNER STARTED INCREASING THE PRICE STARTED INCREASING THE PRICE OF A PINT. OF A PINT. WHEN BUSINESS IS BOOMING? WHEN BUSINESS IS BOOMING? MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S NEXT MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S NEXT AND HOW COME YOU NEVER SEE AND HOW COME YOU NEVER SEE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DYNAMIC PRICING, CUTTING DYNAMIC PRICING, CUTTING PRICES? PRICES? AND WE HAVE MUCH MORE AHEAD AND WE HAVE MUCH MORE AHEAD HERE. HERE. PRIME TICKETMASTER IS TRYING PRIME TICKETMASTER IS TRYING TO AVOID ANOTHER WITH MUSIC TO AVOID ANOTHER WITH MUSIC FANS. FANS. THE CHANGES IT IS NOW MAKING THE CHANGES IT IS NOW MAKING TO DISCOURAGE RESELLERS FOR AN TO DISCOURAGE RESELLERS FOR AN UPCOMING TOUR. UPCOMING TOUR. AND WE'VE ALL DEALT AND WE'VE ALL DEALT WITH INSECURITIES. WITH INSECURITIES. HOW E. HOW E. >> MY FAVORITE. >> MY FAVORITE. NOW THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALLY NOW THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALLY LAUNCHES AN INITIATIVE, STOP LAUNCHES AN INITIATIVE, STOP GUN VIOLENCE. GUN VIOLENCE. AN 11-YEAR-OLD IS HOSPITALIZED AN 11-YEAR-OLD IS HOSPITALIZED AFTER FAMILY SAYS TWO WOMEN AFTER FAMILY SAYS TWO WOMEN ATTACKED HER. ATTACKED HER. AND THE MAJOR CHANGES AND THE MAJOR CHANGES TICKETMASTER IS MAKING FOR AN TICKETMASTER IS MAKING FOR AN UPCOMING TOUR. UPCOMING TOUR. THESE STORIES AND MUCH MORE IN THESE STORIES AND MUCH MORE IN TONIGHT'S RUNDOWN. TONIGHT'S RUNDOWN. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN TODAY >> PRESIDENT BIDEN TODAY ANNOUNCING THE FIRST EVER WHITE ANNOUNCING THE FIRST EVER WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF VIOLENCE HOUSE OFFICE OF VIOLENCE PREVENTION. PREVENTION. >> AFTER EVERY MASS SHOOTING, >> AFTER EVERY MASS SHOOTING, WE HEAR A SIMPLE SAME MEASURED WE HEAR A SIMPLE SAME MEASURED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. I'VE BEEN TO EVERY I'VE BEEN TO EVERY MASS SHOOTING. MASS SHOOTING. DO SOMETHING. DO SOMETHING. THE OFFICE, WHICH WILL BE THE OFFICE, WHICH WILL BE OVERSEEN, VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS OVERSEEN, VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS WILL HAVE FOUR AREAS OF FOCUS. WILL HAVE FOUR AREAS OF FOCUS. SPEED UP OF THE BIPARTISAN SPEED UP OF THE BIPARTISAN SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT AND ALREADY ANNOUNCED EXECUTIVE AND ALREADY ANNOUNCED EXECUTIVE ACTIONS. ACTIONS. FIGURE OUT WHAT ADDITIONAL FIGURE OUT WHAT ADDITIONAL EXECUTIVE ACTIONS PRESIDENT CAN EXECUTIVE ACTIONS PRESIDENT CAN TAKE, BETTER COORDINATE SUPPORT TAKE, BETTER COORDINATE SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITIES AND INDIVIDUAL FOR COMMUNITIES AND INDIVIDUAL IMPACTED BY GUN VIOLENCE, IMPACTED BY GUN VIOLENCE, AND EXPAND PARTNERSHIPS AND EXPAND PARTNERSHIPS WITH STATES AND WORKING WITH STATES AND WORKING TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE. TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE. AN 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL FROM AN 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL FROM CHICAGO IS CONTINUING CHICAGO IS CONTINUING TO RECOVER AFTER SHE WAS TO RECOVER AFTER SHE WAS ALLEGEDLY ATTACKED BY TWO ALLEGEDLY ATTACKED BY TWO WOMEN. WOMEN. THE GIRL HAD TO GET EMERGENCY THE GIRL HAD TO GET EMERGENCY SURGERY ON HER EYE AND WAS SURGERY ON HER EYE AND WAS PREPARING FOR A SECOND SURGERY PREPARING FOR A SECOND SURGERY THIS WEEK. THIS WEEK. SHE AND HER MOTHER TOLD ELSE SHE AND HER MOTHER TOLD ELSE THAT NEIGHBORS HOSTING THAT NEIGHBORS HOSTING A MEXICAN INDEPENDENCE DAY A MEXICAN INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION USED A RACIAL SLUR CELEBRATION USED A RACIAL SLUR AGAINST THEIR FAMILY AND THEN AGAINST THEIR FAMILY AND THEN ALLEGEDLY ATTACKED THE GIRL ALLEGEDLY ATTACKED THE GIRL WHEN SHE DIDN'T MOVE HER DOG WHEN SHE DIDN'T MOVE HER DOG OUT OF THE WAY. OUT OF THE WAY. >> WELL, SHE MET SOME LATINOS. >> WELL, SHE MET SOME LATINOS. I ALMOST BLACKED OUT. I ALMOST BLACKED OUT. WLS REPORTS THAT POLICE SAID NO WLS REPORTS THAT POLICE SAID NO ONE WAS IN CUSTODY AND THE ONE WAS IN CUSTODY AND THE INCIDENT WAS INCIDENT WAS BEING INVESTIGATED. BEING INVESTIGATED. AN INVESTIGATOR WITH THE FULTON AN INVESTIGATOR WITH THE FULTON COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ACCIDENTALLY SHOT OFFICE ACCIDENTALLY SHOT HERSELF WHILE AT THE HERSELF WHILE AT THE COURTHOUSE. COURTHOUSE. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SAID THE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SAID THE INVESTIGATOR WAS ASSISTED BY A INVESTIGATOR WAS ASSISTED BY A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY AND EMT SHERIFF'S DEPUTY AND EMT BUT WAS NOT CRITICALLY WOUNDED BUT WAS NOT CRITICALLY WOUNDED . . OFFICIALS ALSO SAID THERE WAS OFFICIALS ALSO SAID THERE WAS NEVER AN ACTIVE THREAT AT THE NEVER AN ACTIVE THREAT AT THE COURTHOUSE. COURTHOUSE. A NEW HIGH SPEED RAIL LINE A NEW HIGH SPEED RAIL LINE LAUNCHED TODAY, MIAMI LAUNCHED TODAY, MIAMI AND ORLANDO. AND ORLANDO. THE BRIGHT LINE TRAIN IS THE THE BRIGHT LINE TRAIN IS THE FIRST PRIVATE U.S. PASSENGER FIRST PRIVATE U.S. PASSENGER RAILROAD IN 100 YEARS. RAILROAD IN 100 YEARS. IT WILL MAKE THE TRIP BETWEEN IT WILL MAKE THE TRIP BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES THREE AND A HALF THE TWO CITIES THREE AND A HALF HOURS. HOURS. THE TRAIN SERVICE ALREADY THE TRAIN SERVICE ALREADY OPERATED BETWEEN AND WEST PALM OPERATED BETWEEN AND WEST PALM BEACH. BEACH. THE U.S. MEN'S SWIMMING MADE THE U.S. MEN'S SWIMMING MADE A HISTORIC HIRE FOR ITS A HISTORIC HIRE FOR ITS COACH AT THE UPCOMING OLYMPICS COACH AT THE UPCOMING OLYMPICS . . ANTHONY NASTY WILL BECOME ANTHONY NASTY WILL BECOME THE FIRST BLACK COACH TO LEAD THE FIRST BLACK COACH TO LEAD POWERHOUSE SWIMMING TEAM. POWERHOUSE SWIMMING TEAM. HE IS CURRENTLY THE SWIM HE IS CURRENTLY THE SWIM COACH AT THE UNIVERSITY COACH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. OF FLORIDA. BEFORE THAT, HE BECAME BEFORE THAT, HE BECAME THE FIRST BLACK MALE SWIMMER THE FIRST BLACK MALE SWIMMER TO WIN A GOLD MEDAL AT THE 1988 TO WIN A GOLD MEDAL AT THE 1988 SUMMER OLYMPICS. SUMMER OLYMPICS. THE TEAM WILL BE DECIDED THE TEAM WILL BE DECIDED AT TRIALS IN JUNE. AT TRIALS IN JUNE. >> TICKETMASTER IS MAKING >> TICKETMASTER IS MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO HOW IT HANDLES ADJUSTMENTS TO HOW IT HANDLES TICKET SALES FOR MAJOR TOURS. TICKET SALES FOR MAJOR TOURS. THERE IS MASSIVE DEMAND FOR THERE IS MASSIVE DEMAND FOR OLIVIA RODRIGO'S GUTS TOUR OLIVIA RODRIGO'S GUTS TOUR AND FANS WHO WERE LUCKY ENOUGH AND FANS WHO WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET A CODE TO BUY TICKETS TO GET A CODE TO BUY TICKETS YESTERDAY ARE NOTICING A BIG. YESTERDAY ARE NOTICING A BIG. THEY MAY HAVE PAID FOR THEM, THEY MAY HAVE PAID FOR THEM, BUT THE ACTUAL TICKETS WILL NOT BUT THE ACTUAL TICKETS WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE JUST 72 HOURS BE AVAILABLE JUST 72 HOURS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT. BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT. AND THEY WILL ONLY BE AVAILABLE AND THEY WILL ONLY BE AVAILABLE ELECTRONICALLY. ELECTRONICALLY. THIS MOVE IS MEANT TO STOP THIS MOVE IS MEANT TO STOP THOSE RIDICULOUS HIGH RESALE THOSE RIDICULOUS HIGH RESALE PRICES THAT TAYLOR SWIFT FANS PRICES THAT TAYLOR SWIFT FANS EXPERIENCE. EXPERIENCE. FOR HER ARREST, THE BUS TOUR FOR HER ARREST, THE BUS TOUR KICKS OFF IN PALM DESERT, KICKS OFF IN PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, IN FEBRUARY. CALIFORNIA, IN FEBRUARY. IN THE GROWING FIELD IN THE GROWING FIELD OF PSYCHEDELIC RESEARCH, OF PSYCHEDELIC RESEARCH, A SUBSTANCE THAT MAKES MAGIC A SUBSTANCE THAT MAKES MAGIC MUSHROOMS. MUSHROOMS. MAGIC IS MAKING BIG WAVES, MAGIC IS MAKING BIG WAVES, BUT IT'S NOT JUST SCIENTISTS BUT IT'S NOT JUST SCIENTISTS WHO ARE EXCITED. WHO ARE EXCITED. "GMA3" ANCHOR EVA PILGRIM "GMA3" ANCHOR EVA PILGRIM TALKED TO TWO MOTHERS WHO SAY TALKED TO TWO MOTHERS WHO SAY THAT MICRODOSING MAGIC THAT MICRODOSING MAGIC MUSHROOMS HAS BEEN A GAME MUSHROOMS HAS BEEN A GAME CHANGER IN THEIR DAILY LIVES. CHANGER IN THEIR DAILY LIVES. >> THESE ARE DRIED MAGIC >> THESE ARE DRIED MAGIC MUSHROOMS. MUSHROOMS. THAT'S A MAGIC, IS IT? THAT'S A MAGIC, IS IT? >> TRACY TEA IS PART OF A >> TRACY TEA IS PART OF A GROWING TREND. GROWING TREND. MOTHERS TURNING TO MICRODOSING MOTHERS TURNING TO MICRODOSING MAGIC MUSHROOMS TO FIND RELIEF MAGIC MUSHROOMS TO FIND RELIEF FROM BOTH THE BIG AND LITTLE FROM BOTH THE BIG AND LITTLE STRESSORS OF DAILY LIFE. STRESSORS OF DAILY LIFE. >> YOU I GET REALLY FRUSTRATED >> YOU I GET REALLY FRUSTRATED WHEN PEOPLE SAY TO ME, OH, WHEN PEOPLE SAY TO ME, OH, WELL, LIKE MUSHROOMS. WELL, LIKE MUSHROOMS. THE MOMMY'S NEW LITTLE HELPER. THE MOMMY'S NEW LITTLE HELPER. THAT IS NOT WHAT MY THING IS. THAT IS NOT WHAT MY THING IS. >> MICRODOSING IS MOMMY >> MICRODOSING IS MOMMY IS PRESENT AND AWARE IS PRESENT AND AWARE AND SHOWING UP. AND SHOWING UP. MAYBE FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER MAYBE FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN COLORADO, WHERE TRACY LIVES IN COLORADO, WHERE TRACY LIVES USING MUSHROOMS BECAME LEGAL USING MUSHROOMS BECAME LEGAL IN JULY. IN JULY. HOW DO YOU MICRODOSING? HOW DO YOU MICRODOSING? I ACTUALLY REALLY FIND THAT I I ACTUALLY REALLY FIND THAT I LIKE TO DRINK MY MICRO DOSE. LIKE TO DRINK MY MICRO DOSE. >> SO YOU JUST USE TO IT UP >> SO YOU JUST USE TO IT UP AND THAT'S IT. AND THAT'S IT. CHEERS. CHEERS. >> AND THAT'S IT. >> AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. >> IN OREGON, WHERE MAGIC >> IN OREGON, WHERE MAGIC MUSHROOMS HAVE BEEN LEGAL SINCE MUSHROOMS HAVE BEEN LEGAL SINCE 2020, KATE INGRAM, A COUNSELOR 2020, KATE INGRAM, A COUNSELOR AND MOTHER OF TWO, HAS BEEN AND MOTHER OF TWO, HAS BEEN MICRODOSING FOR THE PAST FEW MICRODOSING FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS. MONTHS. I'M NOT A RECREATIONAL I'M NOT A RECREATIONAL DRUG USER. DRUG USER. YOU KNOW, I DRINK SOME WINE. YOU KNOW, I DRINK SOME WINE. MICRODOSING IS TAKING AN MICRODOSING IS TAKING AN INFINITELY SMALL AMOUNT OF THE INFINITELY SMALL AMOUNT OF THE MUSHROOM AT, A TEENY TINY MICRO MUSHROOM AT, A TEENY TINY MICRO DOSE SO THERE ISN'T ANY DOSE SO THERE ISN'T ANY HALLUCINOGENIC, THERE ISN'T ANY HALLUCINOGENIC, THERE ISN'T ANY HIGH. HIGH. SO WHY MUSHROOMS? SO WHY MUSHROOMS? BECAUSE I WAS HEARING AMAZING BECAUSE I WAS HEARING AMAZING STORIES ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES STORIES ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES BEING CHANGED, PEOPLE'S BEING CHANGED, PEOPLE'S ILLNESSES OR THEIR DIFFICULTIES ILLNESSES OR THEIR DIFFICULTIES WITH ANXIETY BEING CHANGED. WITH ANXIETY BEING CHANGED. >> BOTH KATE AND TRACY SAY >> BOTH KATE AND TRACY SAY MICRODOSING GIVES THEM SENSE MICRODOSING GIVES THEM SENSE OF CLARITY AND CALM. OF CLARITY AND CALM. >> I OFTEN DESCRIBE MICRODOSING >> I OFTEN DESCRIBE MICRODOSING AS SOMETHING THAT PHRASE OR AS SOMETHING THAT PHRASE OR LIKE CALMS THE FRAYED EDGES LIKE CALMS THE FRAYED EDGES AROUND US. AROUND US. AND AS MOTHERS, WE HAVE VERY, AND AS MOTHERS, WE HAVE VERY, VERY FRAYED EDGES. VERY FRAYED EDGES. LIKE, OH, THAT THING LIKE, OH, THAT THING THAT REALLY GETS ME KIND THAT REALLY GETS ME KIND OF TENSE AND STRESSED JUST OF TENSE AND STRESSED JUST ISN'T. ISN'T. >> IT'S STILL THE LAW TO USE >> IT'S STILL THE LAW TO USE MAGIC MUSHROOMS IN MOST OF THE MAGIC MUSHROOMS IN MOST OF THE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. COLORADO AND OREGON COLORADO AND OREGON ARE CURRENTLY THE ONLY ARE CURRENTLY THE ONLY STATES IN THE U.S. WHERE STATES IN THE U.S. WHERE IT'S LEGAL TO USE MAGIC IT'S LEGAL TO USE MAGIC MUSHROOMS. MUSHROOMS. CITIES IN FOUR OTHER CITIES IN FOUR OTHER STATES HAVE DECRIMINALIZED STATES HAVE DECRIMINALIZED THE DRUG AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. THE DRUG AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. MAGIC MUSHROOMS FOR HEALING MAGIC MUSHROOMS FOR HEALING ARE, NOT NEW. ARE, NOT NEW. INDIGENOUS CULTURES HAVE BEEN INDIGENOUS CULTURES HAVE BEEN USING THEM AND OTHER USING THEM AND OTHER PSYCHEDELIC FOR THOUSANDS PSYCHEDELIC FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. OF YEARS. BUT THE MODERN SCIENCE AROUND BUT THE MODERN SCIENCE AROUND PSYCHEDELIC IS FAIRLY NEW. PSYCHEDELIC IS FAIRLY NEW. IN 2018, THE FDA CALLING IN 2018, THE FDA CALLING PSILOCYBIN THE HALLUCINOGENIC PSILOCYBIN THE HALLUCINOGENIC COMPOUND IN MAGIC MUSHROOMS, COMPOUND IN MAGIC MUSHROOMS, A BREAKTHROUGH THERAPY FOR A BREAKTHROUGH THERAPY FOR SEVERE DEPRESSION. SEVERE DEPRESSION. >> WHAT YOU THINK OF THE >> WHAT YOU THINK OF THE MICRODOSING? MICRODOSING? >> WE KNOW VERY LITTLE >> WE KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT MICRODOSING. ABOUT MICRODOSING. WHAT I DO SAY TO PEOPLE WHEN WHAT I DO SAY TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY ASK ME, LIKE, SHOULD THEY ASK ME, LIKE, SHOULD I MAKE OR DOES I SAY, WELL I MAKE OR DOES I SAY, WELL I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT, BUT YOU I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT, BUT YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT YOU'RE KIND SHOULD KNOW THAT YOU'RE KIND OF EXPERIMENTING YOURSELF. OF EXPERIMENTING YOURSELF. >> DR. WOOLLEY IS CURRENTLY >> DR. WOOLLEY IS CURRENTLY RESEARCHING PSILOCYBIN AT UC RESEARCHING PSILOCYBIN AT UC SAN FRANCISCO. SAN FRANCISCO. HE TELLS US THE STUDIES USING HE TELLS US THE STUDIES USING THE COMPOUND FOR EVERYTHING THE COMPOUND FOR EVERYTHING FROM ADDICTION TO ANXIETY HAVE FROM ADDICTION TO ANXIETY HAVE BEEN PROMISING. BEEN PROMISING. BUT OF THOSE TRIALS HAVE USED BUT OF THOSE TRIALS HAVE USED VERY LARGE THERAPEUTIC DOSES. VERY LARGE THERAPEUTIC DOSES. HE THINKS MORE RESEARCH HE THINKS MORE RESEARCH IS STILL NEEDED WHEN IT COMES IS STILL NEEDED WHEN IT COMES TO MICRODOSING. TO MICRODOSING. >> I THINK THAT THERE ARE RISKS >> I THINK THAT THERE ARE RISKS THAT WE DON'T TOTALLY KNOW THAT WE DON'T TOTALLY KNOW AND YOU KNOW, THE GROUPS AND YOU KNOW, THE GROUPS ARE REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ARE REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THOSE. THOSE. >> FOR SOME PSYCHEDELICS MAY >> FOR SOME PSYCHEDELICS MAY TRIGGER SEVERE PSYCHIATRIC TRIGGER SEVERE PSYCHIATRIC EPISODES. EPISODES. OTHER RISKS INCLUDE, INCREASED OTHER RISKS INCLUDE, INCREASED HEART RATE AND BLOOD PRESSURE. HEART RATE AND BLOOD PRESSURE. DO YOU THINK MICRODOSING DO YOU THINK MICRODOSING DANGEROUS? DANGEROUS? >> I THINK IT POTENTIALLY COULD >> I THINK IT POTENTIALLY COULD BE. BE. AND E-TOLLING A COMPLICATED AND E-TOLLING A COMPLICATED THING. THING. TRACY BELIEVES SHE HAS FOUND TRACY BELIEVES SHE HAS FOUND HEALING AND SHE'S NOW CREATED HEALING AND SHE'S NOW CREATED AN ONLINE COMMUNITY AN ONLINE COMMUNITY TO DESTIGMATIZE AND PROMOTE TO DESTIGMATIZE AND PROMOTE THE SAFE USE OF PSYCHEDELICS THE SAFE USE OF PSYCHEDELICS CALLED MOMS ON MUSHROOMS. CALLED MOMS ON MUSHROOMS. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S THE >> I DON'T THINK IT'S THE ONLY WAY. ONLY WAY. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS A WAY IT WAS A WAY FOR ME. IS A WAY IT WAS A WAY FOR ME. >> I THINK I'M A >> I THINK I'M A MORE EMPATHETIC MOM. MORE EMPATHETIC MOM. DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S HELPING DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S HELPING YOU EVERY DAY? YOU EVERY DAY? I. I. AND WHETHER THAT'S IN MY MIND AND WHETHER THAT'S IN MY MIND OR THAT'S IN MUSHROOM OR BOTH, OR THAT'S IN MUSHROOM OR BOTH, THAT HELPS ME BE A BETTER THAT HELPS ME BE A BETTER VERSION OF MYSELF AND STILL VERSION OF MYSELF AND STILL COMPLETELY MYSELF. COMPLETELY MYSELF. >> IT'S ALL GOOD. >> IT'S ALL GOOD. >> OUR THANKS TO EVA PILGRIM. >> OUR THANKS TO EVA PILGRIM. YOU KNOW, SO MANY OF US CAN YOU KNOW, SO MANY OF US CAN EXPERIENCE SELF-DOUBT, HAVE EXPERIENCE SELF-DOUBT, HAVE TROUBLE TALKING ABOUT OUR TROUBLE TALKING ABOUT OUR MENTAL OR STRUGGLE WITH BODY MENTAL OR STRUGGLE WITH BODY IMAGE. IMAGE. OUR NEXT GUESTS, ALL OF THOSE OUR NEXT GUESTS, ALL OF THOSE ISSUES THROUGH HUMOR. ISSUES THROUGH HUMOR. COMEDIAN APARNA IS THE AUTHOR COMEDIAN APARNA IS THE AUTHOR OF UNRELIABLE NARRATOR ME, OF UNRELIABLE NARRATOR ME, MYSELF AND IMPOSTER SYNDROME, MYSELF AND IMPOSTER SYNDROME, AND SHE JOINS US NOW. AND SHE JOINS US NOW. APARNA THANKS FOR JOINING US. APARNA THANKS FOR JOINING US. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. YOU HAVE SELF-DOUBT INTO COMEDY YOU HAVE SELF-DOUBT INTO COMEDY GOLD. GOLD. >> AND SO I WONDER IN YOUR BOOK >> AND SO I WONDER IN YOUR BOOK AND IN YOUR SPECIALS, YOU JOKE AND IN YOUR SPECIALS, YOU JOKE ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL STRUGGLES ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL STRUGGLES WITH DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY WITH DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY USING SELF-DEPRECATING HUMOR. USING SELF-DEPRECATING HUMOR. TELL US WHY YOU CHOSE COMEDY TELL US WHY YOU CHOSE COMEDY AS, A SORT OF COPING MECHANISM. AS, A SORT OF COPING MECHANISM. >> YEAH, I MEAN FOR ME, I WAS >> YEAH, I MEAN FOR ME, I WAS A PRETTY SHY, INTROVERTED KID. A PRETTY SHY, INTROVERTED KID. AND I THINK COMEDY WHEN AND I THINK COMEDY WHEN I DISCOVERED IT AS A YOUNGSTER I DISCOVERED IT AS A YOUNGSTER WAS KIND OF A WAY FOR ME TO GET WAS KIND OF A WAY FOR ME TO GET OUT OF MY OWN HEAD AND CONNECT OUT OF MY OWN HEAD AND CONNECT WITH OTHER PEOPLE. WITH OTHER PEOPLE. I LIVED SO MUCH SORT OF IN I LIVED SO MUCH SORT OF IN MY OWN INNER WORLD. MY OWN INNER WORLD. AND I THINK GAVE ME A WAY AND I THINK GAVE ME A WAY TO BRIDGE MY BRAIN TO OTHER. TO BRIDGE MY BRAIN TO OTHER. AND I THINK BECAUSE THERE AND I THINK BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETIMES A LOT OF ANXIETY, IS SOMETIMES A LOT OF ANXIETY, DEPRESSION AND SELF-DOUBT GOING DEPRESSION AND SELF-DOUBT GOING ON IN MY BRAIN, IT ALSO FELT ON IN MY BRAIN, IT ALSO FELT MORE TO ALSO LEAD WITH THOSE MORE TO ALSO LEAD WITH THOSE THINGS RATHER THAN PRETEND THINGS RATHER THAN PRETEND THEY AREN'T TAKING UP SO MUCH THEY AREN'T TAKING UP SO MUCH ROOM INSIDE. ROOM INSIDE. >> AND YET, DESPITE OF YOUR >> AND YET, DESPITE OF YOUR SUCCESS WITH SPECIALS ON HBO SUCCESS WITH SPECIALS ON HBO AND NETFLIX, COMEDY CENTRAL AND NETFLIX, COMEDY CENTRAL AND EVEN LATE NIGHT TV, YOU SAY AND EVEN LATE NIGHT TV, YOU SAY THAT YOU STILL FEEL LIKE THE, THAT YOU STILL FEEL LIKE THE, QUOTE, PHONY. QUOTE, PHONY. >> WHERE WHERE DO YOU THINK >> WHERE WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT SOURCE OF IMPOSTER THAT SOURCE OF IMPOSTER SYNDROME RUNS SO DEEPLY IN YOU SYNDROME RUNS SO DEEPLY IN YOU ? ? >> YEAH, I MEAN, I'M A KID >> YEAH, I MEAN, I'M A KID OF IMMIGRANTS, THINK I GREW UP OF IMMIGRANTS, THINK I GREW UP ALWAYS KIND OF TRYING TO PLAY ALWAYS KIND OF TRYING TO PLAY INTO THAT ASSIMILATIONIST INTO THAT ASSIMILATIONIST MENTALITY OF WANTING TO BLEND MENTALITY OF WANTING TO BLEND IN AND, YOU KNOW, DRAW IN AND, YOU KNOW, DRAW ATTENTION TO MYSELF, BUT IN ATTENTION TO MYSELF, BUT IN A GOOD WAY. A GOOD WAY. BUT NOT YOU KNOW, STICK OUT TOO BUT NOT YOU KNOW, STICK OUT TOO MUCH WHERE PEOPLE ARE MAYBE MUCH WHERE PEOPLE ARE MAYBE OVERLY SCRUTINIZING. OVERLY SCRUTINIZING. AND I'VE ALWAYS JUST HAD THIS AND I'VE ALWAYS JUST HAD THIS FEELING THAT MAYBE I'M LIKE FEELING THAT MAYBE I'M LIKE RUNNING TO CATCH UP RUNNING TO CATCH UP WITH EVERYONE ELSE IN TERMS OF, WITH EVERYONE ELSE IN TERMS OF, YEAH, JUST IN LIFE. YEAH, JUST IN LIFE. >> I'VE BEEN A LIFELONG LATE >> I'VE BEEN A LIFELONG LATE BLOOMER AND I KNOW GROWING UP BLOOMER AND I KNOW GROWING UP AS AN IMMIGRANT MYSELF AS AN IMMIGRANT MYSELF THAT SOMETIMES YOU FEEL THAT SOMETIMES YOU FEEL A LITTLE BIT OF AN OUTSIDER, A LITTLE BIT OF AN OUTSIDER, BUT HOW MUCH OF YOUR IMPOSTER BUT HOW MUCH OF YOUR IMPOSTER SYNDROME DO YOU THINK SYNDROME DO YOU THINK IS BECAUSE OF YOUR ETHNIC IS BECAUSE OF YOUR ETHNIC IDENTITY? IDENTITY? >> I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT. >> I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT. BUT I THINK FOR ME IT'S SEVERAL BUT I THINK FOR ME IT'S SEVERAL LAYERS DEEP. LAYERS DEEP. YEAH, I THINK BEING MAYBE A KID YEAH, I THINK BEING MAYBE A KID OF IMMIGRANTS, A SOUTH ASIAN OF IMMIGRANTS, A SOUTH ASIAN AMERICAN, AND IN AN ART FORM AMERICAN, AND IN AN ART FORM THAT MAYBE DOESN'T HAVE A TON THAT MAYBE DOESN'T HAVE A TON OF, BUT ALSO BEING, YOU KNOW, OF, BUT ALSO BEING, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SHY AND INTROVERTED IN A PRETTY SHY AND INTROVERTED IN A VERY FRONT FACING INDUSTRY. VERY FRONT FACING INDUSTRY. SO I THINK THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS SO I THINK THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS THAT SOMETIMES MAKE ME FEEL THAT SOMETIMES MAKE ME FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE A FISH OUT A LITTLE BIT LIKE A FISH OUT OF WATER, BUT I REALLY TRIED OF WATER, BUT I REALLY TRIED TO BE UPFRONT ABOUT THOSE TO BE UPFRONT ABOUT THOSE THINGS AS I AS I'VE MY CAREER. THINGS AS I AS I'VE MY CAREER. >> SO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO >> SO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE FEELING THOSE RIGHT NOW ARE FEELING THOSE RIGHT NOW AND FEELING IMPOSTER SYNDROME, AND FEELING IMPOSTER SYNDROME, WHAT ADVICE CAN YOU GIVE THEM WHAT ADVICE CAN YOU GIVE THEM TO HELP EASE THE WAY THEY SEE TO HELP EASE THE WAY THEY SEE THEMSELVES AND, MAYBE NOT THEMSELVES AND, MAYBE NOT GIVE THEMSELVES ENOUGH CREDIT? GIVE THEMSELVES ENOUGH CREDIT? YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK JUST YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK JUST THE FACT THAT PROBABLY A LOT THE FACT THAT PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FAKING IT TIL OF PEOPLE ARE FAKING IT TIL THEY MAKE IT SO YOU MIGHT FEEL THEY MAKE IT SO YOU MIGHT FEEL LIKE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE. LIKE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE. >> AND I THINK A HALLMARK >> AND I THINK A HALLMARK OF IMPOSTER SYNDROME IS FEELING OF IMPOSTER SYNDROME IS FEELING LIKE, YEAH, SURE, PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE, YEAH, SURE, PEOPLE MIGHT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT. FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW DOING BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. WHAT I'M DOING. LIKE IT'S SORT OF YOU BECOME, LIKE IT'S SORT OF YOU BECOME, YOU BECOME CONVINCED OF YOUR YOU BECOME CONVINCED OF YOUR OWN TRUTHS. OWN TRUTHS. >> AND SO HOW DO YOU COPE >> AND SO HOW DO YOU COPE WITH WHAT YOU REFER TO AS WITH WHAT YOU REFER TO AS INTERNALIZED RACISM? INTERNALIZED RACISM? >> THIS IDEA THAT YOU >> THIS IDEA THAT YOU ARE DIFFERENT, BUT YOU ACT, ARE DIFFERENT, BUT YOU ACT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE YOU KNOW, PART OF THE MAINSTREAM. MAINSTREAM. AT ONE POINT YOU'RE QUOTED AT ONE POINT YOU'RE QUOTED AS SAYING, LIKE, I FEEL SORT AS SAYING, LIKE, I FEEL SORT OF WHITE ADJACENT ALMOST. OF WHITE ADJACENT ALMOST. >> YEAH, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY >> YEAH, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY AS A ASIAN AMERICAN, SOMETIMES AS A ASIAN AMERICAN, SOMETIMES I THINK OF MY GROUP INTO I THINK OF MY GROUP INTO THAT MODEL MINORITY. THAT MODEL MINORITY. I THINK INDIAN-AMERICANS I THINK INDIAN-AMERICANS ARE SOME OF THE HIGHEST WEALTH ARE SOME OF THE HIGHEST WEALTH EARNERS IN IN THE COUNTRY EARNERS IN IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK SOMETIMES THERE'S SO I THINK SOMETIMES THERE'S JUST THIS IDEA THAT WE'RE JUST THIS IDEA THAT WE'RE ALL LIKE SUCCESSFUL, PERFECT, ALL LIKE SUCCESSFUL, PERFECT, YOU KNOW, HIGH ACHIEVING. YOU KNOW, HIGH ACHIEVING. BUT THAT SPEAK FOR OUR WHOLE BUT THAT SPEAK FOR OUR WHOLE GROUP. GROUP. WE'RE NOT A MONOLITH. WE'RE NOT A MONOLITH. AND WE'RE ALSO AND WE'RE ALSO THREE DIMENSIONAL PEOPLE. THREE DIMENSIONAL PEOPLE. AND A LOT OF US ARE, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF US ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE STRUGGLING THE SURFACE MAYBE STRUGGLING THE SURFACE THAT IT'S NOT JUST THIS LIKE THAT IT'S NOT JUST THIS LIKE PICTURE PERFECT. PICTURE PERFECT. >> AND WE KNOW THAT COMEDY >> AND WE KNOW THAT COMEDY IS ALSO A VERY MALE DOMINATED IS ALSO A VERY MALE DOMINATED INDUSTRY. INDUSTRY. IS THAT PLAYING INTO IS THAT PLAYING INTO THE IMPOSTER SYNDROME? THE IMPOSTER SYNDROME? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT A LOT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT A LOT OF WOMEN THAT WAY IN THE OF WOMEN THAT WAY IN THE WORKPLACE VIS A VIS THEIR MALE WORKPLACE VIS A VIS THEIR MALE COUNTERPARTS. COUNTERPARTS. >> YEAH, I MEAN, I TALK >> YEAH, I MEAN, I TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE IN BOOK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE IN BOOK ABOUT JUST HOW IMPOSTER ABOUT JUST HOW IMPOSTER SYNDROME IS OFTEN MARKETED SYNDROME IS OFTEN MARKETED TOWARDS, WOMEN AND MINORITIES TOWARDS, WOMEN AND MINORITIES AS SOMETHING THEY MIGHT AS SOMETHING THEY MIGHT EXPERIENCE OR OTHER EXPERIENCE OR OTHER MARGINALIZED GROUPS, BUT ANYONE MARGINALIZED GROUPS, BUT ANYONE CAN EXPERIENCE IT. CAN EXPERIENCE IT. BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT REALIZE, LIKE SOMETIMES REALIZE, LIKE SOMETIMES IT'S THE WATER YOU'RE SWIMMING IT'S THE WATER YOU'RE SWIMMING IN THAT'S THE PROBLEM. IN THAT'S THE PROBLEM. AND YOU BEING THE FRAUD. AND YOU BEING THE FRAUD. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. LET'S CLEAN UP THE WATER NOW. LET'S CLEAN UP THE WATER NOW. I APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE IT. I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AND FOR ADDING YOUR VOICE US AND FOR ADDING YOUR VOICE TO THAT CONVERSATION. TO THAT CONVERSATION. YOUR NEW BOOK, GETTING RAVE YOUR NEW BOOK, GETTING RAVE REVIEWS. REVIEWS. UNRELIABLE. UNRELIABLE. NARRATOR ME, MYSELF NARRATOR ME, MYSELF AND IMPOSTER SYNDROME AND IMPOSTER SYNDROME IS AVAILABLE NOW WHEREVER BOOKS IS AVAILABLE NOW WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD. ARE SOLD. >> THANK YOU, APARNA. >> THANK YOU, APARNA. THANKS. THANKS. THANKS TO YOU. THANKS TO YOU. THANKS FOR ME. THANKS FOR ME. >> NASA HAS DEVELOPED NEW TO >> NASA HAS DEVELOPED NEW TO CLOSELY OBSERVE THE DARK SIDE CLOSELY OBSERVE THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, WHICH COULD HELP OF THE MOON, WHICH COULD HELP TO ITS FIRST HUMAN COLONY. TO ITS FIRST HUMAN COLONY. IT'S PART OF NATIONAL IT'S PART OF NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC SPACE ISSUE. GEOGRAPHIC SPACE ISSUE. AND WE HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE SNEAK AND WE HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE SNEAK PEEK SHOWING HOW FAR WE'VE COME PEEK SHOWING HOW FAR WE'VE COME SINCE THE FIRST LUNAR LANDING SINCE THE FIRST LUNAR LANDING DECADES AGO. DECADES AGO. ABC'S MAN IN SPACE, MICHAEL ABC'S MAN IN SPACE, MICHAEL STRAHAN, HAS THE STORY. STRAHAN, HAS THE STORY. >> THAT'S ONE SMALL STEP FOR >> THAT'S ONE SMALL STEP FOR MAN ONE THEY ARE MEANT FOR MAN ONE THEY ARE MEANT FOR MANKIND. MANKIND. WAS 54 YEARS AGO. WAS 54 YEARS AGO. AND NOW THIS MORNING, NASA MAY AND NOW THIS MORNING, NASA MAY HAVE JUST TAKEN ONE BABY STEP HAVE JUST TAKEN ONE BABY STEP TOWARDS THE DREAM OF A HUMAN TOWARDS THE DREAM OF A HUMAN COLONY IN SPACE. COLONY IN SPACE. SCIENTISTS NOW ABLE TO GET SCIENTISTS NOW ABLE TO GET A CLOSER LOOK AT MYSTERIOUS A CLOSER LOOK AT MYSTERIOUS AND UNEXPLORED LUNAR SOUTH POLE AND UNEXPLORED LUNAR SOUTH POLE REGION SPOTTING POTENTIAL REGION SPOTTING POTENTIAL LANDING SITES FOR NASA'S LANDING SITES FOR NASA'S PLANNED 2025 ARTEMIS PLANNED 2025 ARTEMIS THREE MISSION, PUTTING THREE MISSION, PUTTING THE FIRST WOMAN AND PERSON THE FIRST WOMAN AND PERSON OF COLOR ON MOON. OF COLOR ON MOON. INITIALLY, WE'LL BE SENDING INITIALLY, WE'LL BE SENDING FOUR ASTRONAUTS TO, THE MOON FOUR ASTRONAUTS TO, THE MOON AND TWO OF THOSE ASTRONAUTS AND TWO OF THOSE ASTRONAUTS WILL STAY IN ORBIT WHILE TO GO WILL STAY IN ORBIT WHILE TO GO DOWN TO THE SURFACE OF THE DOWN TO THE SURFACE OF THE MOON. MOON. THIS KIND OF OPENING THE DOOR THIS KIND OF OPENING THE DOOR TO TO SEND MORE PEOPLE AND TO TO TO SEND MORE PEOPLE AND TO STAY LONGER ON THE SURFACE STAY LONGER ON THE SURFACE OF THE MOON IN UNPRECEDENTED OF THE MOON IN UNPRECEDENTED DETAIL. DETAIL. >> THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC >> THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC EXCLUSIVE IN THIS MONTH EXCLUSIVE IN THIS MONTH MAGAZINE EMPLOYED THE CUTTING MAGAZINE EMPLOYED THE CUTTING EDGE SHADOW, A LUNAR INSTRUMENT EDGE SHADOW, A LUNAR INSTRUMENT ABLE TO SHOOT IN EXTREMELY LOW ABLE TO SHOOT IN EXTREMELY LOW LIGHT OR IN THIS CASE, THE DARK LIGHT OR IN THIS CASE, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON. SIDE OF THE MOON. SCIENTISTS TO FIND ICE DEPOSITS SCIENTISTS TO FIND ICE DEPOSITS AN AREA THAT COULD POTENTIALLY AN AREA THAT COULD POTENTIALLY SUPPORT LONG TERM STAYS SUPPORT LONG TERM STAYS ON THE MOON IF THAT ICE CAN ON THE MOON IF THAT ICE CAN PROVIDE WATER. PROVIDE WATER. SOME OF THESE ICES, IF THEY ARE SOME OF THESE ICES, IF THEY ARE PRESENT IN THESE CRATERS, IT PRESENT IN THESE CRATERS, IT COULD SERVE AS RESOURCE TO HELP COULD SERVE AS RESOURCE TO HELP US AS WE EXPLORE THE REST US AS WE EXPLORE THE REST OF THE MOON AND THE SOLAR OF THE MOON AND THE SOLAR SYSTEM IN GENERAL. SYSTEM IN GENERAL. THIS IS HOW WE LEARN TO SURVIVE THIS IS HOW WE LEARN TO SURVIVE IN SPACE AND EXPLORE SOLAR IN SPACE AND EXPLORE SOLAR SYSTEM AROUND US. SYSTEM AROUND US. >> OUR THANKS TO MICHAEL >> OUR THANKS TO MICHAEL STRAHAN. STRAHAN. AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS HOUR. HOUR. I'M JUJU CHANG. I'M JUJU CHANG. STAY TUNED TO ABC NEWS LIVE FOR STAY TUNED TO ABC NEWS LIVE FOR MORE CONTEXT AND ANALYSIS MORE CONTEXT AND ANALYSIS OF THE DAY'S STORIES. OF THE DAY'S STORIES. >> THANKS FOR STREAMING WITH US >> THANKS FOR STREAMING WITH US . . >> AND COMING UP IN THE NEXT >> AND COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR, ONE WOMAN IS FACING HOUR, ONE WOMAN IS FACING CHARGES FOR ALLEGEDLY KILLING CHARGES FOR ALLEGEDLY KILLING HUSBAND AND THEN WRITING A BOOK HUSBAND AND THEN WRITING A BOOK ABOUT GRIEF. ABOUT GRIEF. WHY HER BROTHER SAYS HE DOESN'T WHY HER BROTHER SAYS HE DOESN'T BELIEVE SHE'S CAPABLE BELIEVE SHE'S CAPABLE OF COMMITTING THAT CRIME. OF COMMITTING THAT CRIME. AND DOZENS OF PEOPLE AND DOZENS OF PEOPLE ARE INJURED AFTER A DEADLY ARE INJURED AFTER A DEADLY REAMING ABC NEWS LIVE LIVE AND WE'RE TRACKING SEVERAL HEADLINES TRACKING SEVERAL HEADLINES AROUND THE WORLD. AROUND THE WORLD. PERSON DIED AND TEN WERE PERSON DIED AND TEN WERE MISSING AFTER A FIRE AND AN MISSING AFTER A FIRE AND AN EXPLOSION AT A GOLFING EXPLOSION AT A GOLFING EQUIPMENT FACTORY IN SOUTHERN EQUIPMENT FACTORY IN SOUTHERN TAIWAN. TAIWAN. THE PERSON DEAD WAS THE PERSON DEAD WAS A FIREFIGHTER AND NEARLY A FIREFIGHTER AND NEARLY 100 PEOPLE WERE INJURED 100 PEOPLE WERE INJURED AND TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL. AND TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL. SEARCH AND RESCUE OPERATIONS SEARCH AND RESCUE OPERATIONS ARE STILL ONGOING WHILE ARE STILL ONGOING WHILE THE CAUSE OF THE FIRE REMAINS THE CAUSE OF THE FIRE REMAINS UNKNOWN. UNKNOWN. ACCORDING AUTHORITIES. ACCORDING AUTHORITIES. NIGERIANS MARCHED IN SEVERAL NIGERIANS MARCHED IN SEVERAL STATES WEEK IN AN OUTPOURING STATES WEEK IN AN OUTPOURING OF GRIEF AND TO PRESS OF GRIEF AND TO PRESS AUTHORITIES TO INVESTIGATE AUTHORITIES TO INVESTIGATE THE DEATH OF POPULAR AFROBEATS THE DEATH OF POPULAR AFROBEATS MUSICIAN MOBILE, FORCING MUSICIAN MOBILE, FORCING THE POLICE TO EXHUME HIS BODY THE POLICE TO EXHUME HIS BODY FOR AN AUTOPSY. FOR AN AUTOPSY. THE 27 YEAR OLD SINGER DIED THE 27 YEAR OLD SINGER DIED IN A LAGOS HOSPITAL IN UNCLEAR IN A LAGOS HOSPITAL IN UNCLEAR CIRCUMSTANCES. CIRCUMSTANCES. THE LATE COLOMBIAN ARTIST THE LATE COLOMBIAN ARTIST FERNANDO BOTERO, KNOWN FOR FERNANDO BOTERO, KNOWN FOR HIS SCULPTURES AND PLAYFUL HIS SCULPTURES AND PLAYFUL PAINTINGS OF ROTUND SUBJECTS, PAINTINGS OF ROTUND SUBJECTS, WAS HONORED AT THE COLOMBIAN WAS HONORED AT THE COLOMBIAN CONGRESS OF THE WEEKEND LONG CONGRESS OF THE WEEKEND LONG PUBLIC WAKE. PUBLIC WAKE. THE BODY OF THE ARTIST WHO WAS THE BODY OF THE ARTIST WHO WAS BORN IN MEDELLIN ARRIVED BORN IN MEDELLIN ARRIVED IN COLOMBIA YESTERDAY AFTER IN COLOMBIA YESTERDAY AFTER HE DIED IN MONACO ON SEPTEMBER HE DIED IN MONACO ON SEPTEMBER 15. 15. HERALDED AS AMERICA'S ANSWER HERALDED AS AMERICA'S ANSWER TO PICASSO, BOTERO HIS WORKS TO PICASSO, BOTERO HIS WORKS HAVE BEEN FEATURED HAVE BEEN FEATURED IN EXHIBITIONS ACROSS THE WORLD IN EXHIBITIONS ACROSS THE WORLD . . >> NOW HE'S A NORTH STAR. >> NOW HE'S A NORTH STAR. FOR ANYONE WANTING TO REACH FOR ANYONE WANTING TO REACH NEW HEIGHTS AND NOW FORMER NEW HEIGHTS AND NOW FORMER ASTRONAUT JOSE HERNANDEZ ASTRONAUT JOSE HERNANDEZ IS HOPING THE MOVIE ABOUT HIS IS HOPING THE MOVIE ABOUT HIS LIFE INSPIRES THE NEXT LIFE INSPIRES THE NEXT GENERATION OF ASTRONAUTS GENERATION OF ASTRONAUTS ESPECIALLY YOUNG LATINOS. ESPECIALLY YOUNG LATINOS. ABC'S MELISSA DORN SAT DOWN ABC'S MELISSA DORN SAT DOWN WITH THE AMERICAN TREASURE WITH THE AMERICAN TREASURE TO DO ONE ZERO. TO DO ONE ZERO. WE HAVE A LIST OF THE 1972 WE HAVE A LIST OF THE 1972 APOLLO 17 MISSION MARKED APOLLO 17 MISSION MARKED THE MOST RECENT OCCASION WHERE THE MOST RECENT OCCASION WHERE HUMANS WALKED ON THE MOON. HUMANS WALKED ON THE MOON. >> I GOT TO BE ONE OF THE MOST >> I GOT TO BE ONE OF THE MOST PROUD MOMENTS OF MY LIFE, PROUD MOMENTS OF MY LIFE, I GUARANTEE YOU. I GUARANTEE YOU. WATCHING FROM HIS HOME, WATCHING FROM HIS HOME, STOCKTON, 110 YEAR OLD INSPIRED STOCKTON, 110 YEAR OLD INSPIRED BY IT AND WANTED FROM 30 YEARS, BY IT AND WANTED FROM 30 YEARS, MY FOCUS USED THIS MOMENT MY FOCUS USED THIS MOMENT RECREATED ON THE SCREEN RECREATED ON THE SCREEN IN PRIME VIDEO'S. IN PRIME VIDEO'S. A MILLION MILES AWAY WAS A MILLION MILES AWAY WAS THE FOUNDATION FOR JOSE THE FOUNDATION FOR JOSE HERNANDEZ'S BIG DREAM. HERNANDEZ'S BIG DREAM. >> IF YOU COULD PICTURE A TEN >> IF YOU COULD PICTURE A TEN YEAR OLD BOY KNEELING DOWN YEAR OLD BOY KNEELING DOWN WATCHING A BLACK AND WHITE TV WATCHING A BLACK AND WHITE TV ANTENNA, WATCHING GENE CERNAN ANTENNA, WATCHING GENE CERNAN WALK THE MOON, I SAID, MAN, WALK THE MOON, I SAID, MAN, I WANT TO BE LIKE HIM. I WANT TO BE LIKE HIM. HIS HUMBLE BEGINNINGS PROVED HIS HUMBLE BEGINNINGS PROVED THE TERRAIN AHEAD WOULD THE TERRAIN AHEAD WOULD BE TUMULTUOUS. BE TUMULTUOUS. HERNANDEZ WOULD TRAVEL ANNUALLY HERNANDEZ WOULD TRAVEL ANNUALLY TO THE FARMS, THEN SCHOOL. TO THE FARMS, THEN SCHOOL. BY AGE TEN, HE WAS LEARNING BY AGE TEN, HE WAS LEARNING ENGLISH. ENGLISH. BUT WHAT HIS PEERS DIDN'T BUT WHAT HIS PEERS DIDN'T REALIZE IS HE WOULD ONE DAY REALIZE IS HE WOULD ONE DAY SOAR TO TREMENDOUS HEIGHTS, SOAR TO TREMENDOUS HEIGHTS, A LESSON HE HOPES TO SHARE A LESSON HE HOPES TO SHARE WITH ALL LATINOS WATCHING AT WITH ALL LATINOS WATCHING AT HOME. HOME. >> NEVER BE AFRAID TO TO DREAM >> NEVER BE AFRAID TO TO DREAM BIG. BIG. JUST PUT IN THE WORK AND GOOD JUST PUT IN THE WORK AND GOOD THINGS WILL HAPPEN. THINGS WILL HAPPEN. I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE IT'S FUNNY I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE IT'S FUNNY HOW THE HARDER I WORK, HOW THE HARDER I WORK, THE LUCKIER I GET. THE LUCKIER I GET. >> THE NAYSAYERS WERE NOT >> THE NAYSAYERS WERE NOT IS FULL OF PRIDE DURING IS FULL OF PRIDE DURING OUR INTERVIEW IN LOS ANGELES. OUR INTERVIEW IN LOS ANGELES. HIS ARE TRULY OUT OF THIS HIS ARE TRULY OUT OF THIS WORLD. WORLD. AFTER EARNING DEGREES AFTER EARNING DEGREES IN ENGINEERING AND WORKING IN ENGINEERING AND WORKING AT THE JOHNSON SPACE CENTER, AT THE JOHNSON SPACE CENTER, HE CHOSEN TO GO TO SPACE HE CHOSEN TO GO TO SPACE IN 2009 AS A MISSION SPECIALIST IN 2009 AS A MISSION SPECIALIST . . BUT GETTING THERE MEANT BUT GETTING THERE MEANT SACRIFICING AND FACING UGLY SACRIFICING AND FACING UGLY TRUTHS HE FACED BY FOLLOWING TRUTHS HE FACED BY FOLLOWING HIS OWN NORTH STAR. HIS OWN NORTH STAR. >> YOU I REMEMBER THE VERY >> YOU I REMEMBER THE VERY FIRST TIME I FELT DISCRIMINATED FIRST TIME I FELT DISCRIMINATED AT SCHOOL WHERE I WENT HOME AND AT SCHOOL WHERE I WENT HOME AND COMPLAINED TO MY MOM AND MY MOM COMPLAINED TO MY MOM AND MY MOM SAID A PHRASE THAT I'D NEVER SAID A PHRASE THAT I'D NEVER FORGET. FORGET. SHE SAID NICOLE MARTELL GONE SHE SAID NICOLE MARTELL GONE A LOT MORE. A LOT MORE. KILL THEM WITH LOVE. KILL THEM WITH LOVE. AND THE PLAIN REALITY IS THAT AND THE PLAIN REALITY IS THAT YOU DO HAVE TO WORK HARDER YOU DO HAVE TO WORK HARDER TO GET THE SAME AMOUNT TO GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF CREDIT. OF CREDIT. AND YOU COULD DO EITHER ONE OF AND YOU COULD DO EITHER ONE OF TWO THINGS. TWO THINGS. YOU COULD PUT A CHIP ON YOUR YOU COULD PUT A CHIP ON YOUR SHOULDER AND FEEL SORRY FOR SHOULDER AND FEEL SORRY FOR YOURSELF AND SAY, WOE IS ME, YOURSELF AND SAY, WOE IS ME, LOOK AT ME THERE DISCRIMINATE LOOK AT ME THERE DISCRIMINATE OR YOU CAN ABIDE BY THAT RULE OR YOU CAN ABIDE BY THAT RULE SAID. SAID. >> I'M JUST GOING TO WORK >> I'M JUST GOING TO WORK HARDER. HARDER. THAT TENACITY HIS SUPERPOWER THAT TENACITY HIS SUPERPOWER AND THE KEY TO HIS SUCCESS AND THE KEY TO HIS SUCCESS BECAUSE HIS ACCEPTANCE INTO BECAUSE HIS ACCEPTANCE INTO THE NASA'S SPACE PROGRAM DIDN'T THE NASA'S SPACE PROGRAM DIDN'T COME EASILY. COME EASILY. IT CAME AFTER A DOZEN ATTEMPTS. IT CAME AFTER A DOZEN ATTEMPTS. >> TALK ABOUT PERSEVERANCE. >> TALK ABOUT PERSEVERANCE. THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS TELL THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS TELL IN MY MOTIVATIONAL TALKS, IN MY MOTIVATIONAL TALKS, I SAID, WHEN YOU PICK YOUR GOAL I SAID, WHEN YOU PICK YOUR GOAL IN LIFE, MAKE SURE YOU ENJOY IN LIFE, MAKE SURE YOU ENJOY JOURNEY ALONG THE WAY, BECAUSE JOURNEY ALONG THE WAY, BECAUSE THAT'S 80, 90% OF YOUR TIME THAT'S 80, 90% OF YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT. AND YOUR EFFORT. AND IF YOU'RE NOT ENJOYING AND IF YOU'RE NOT ENJOYING THE JOURNEY, CHANCES ARE YOU THE JOURNEY, CHANCES ARE YOU PICKED THE WRONG GOAL FOR PICKED THE WRONG GOAL FOR YOURSELF. YOURSELF. YES, I WAS DISAPPOINTED. YES, I WAS DISAPPOINTED. AND YES, I SOAKED FOR ONE OR AND YES, I SOAKED FOR ONE OR TWO DAYS, BUT THEN I GOT MYSELF TWO DAYS, BUT THEN I GOT MYSELF UP AND I SAID, HEY, LOOK AROUND UP AND I SAID, HEY, LOOK AROUND . . 30 YEARS AGO YOU WERE PICKING 30 YEARS AGO YOU WERE PICKING CUCUMBERS FOR $0.50 A BUCKET. CUCUMBERS FOR $0.50 A BUCKET. LOOK WHERE YOU'RE AT NOW. LOOK WHERE YOU'RE AT NOW. >> SO YOU COULD TURN ME DOWN >> SO YOU COULD TURN ME DOWN AGAIN. AGAIN. BUT REST ASSURED, I'LL BUT REST ASSURED, I'LL BE STANDING HERE AGAIN IN A BE STANDING HERE AGAIN IN A YEAR A MILLION MILES AWAY, YEAR A MILLION MILES AWAY, WHICH STARS MICHAEL PENA TELLS WHICH STARS MICHAEL PENA TELLS JOSE'S STORY. JOSE'S STORY. AND ONE OF SO MANY MIGRANT AND ONE OF SO MANY MIGRANT FAMILIES. FAMILIES. WE HAVE MIGRANT FAMILIES COMING WE HAVE MIGRANT FAMILIES COMING AND THEY WANT THEIR CHILDREN AND THEY WANT THEIR CHILDREN TO GO TO SCHOOL. TO GO TO SCHOOL. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING. A LIVING. AND IT IS VERY HARD. AND IT IS VERY HARD. I MEAN, YOUR PARENTS TOOK I MEAN, YOUR PARENTS TOOK A MAJOR SACRIFICE. A MAJOR SACRIFICE. HOW DO YOU ENCOURAGE EVEN OTHER HOW DO YOU ENCOURAGE EVEN OTHER FAMILIES IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS? FAMILIES IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS? >> I REALIZED PARENTS, >> I REALIZED PARENTS, YOU KNOW, ARE TRYING TO PUT YOU KNOW, ARE TRYING TO PUT FOOD THE TABLE AND THEY'RE FOOD THE TABLE AND THEY'RE WORKING LONG HOURS. WORKING LONG HOURS. BUT I THINK IF THEY WORK AS A BUT I THINK IF THEY WORK AS A TEAM AND SORT OF HAVE SOME TYPE TEAM AND SORT OF HAVE SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT THAT THERE'S OF AGREEMENT THAT THERE'S THERE'S A WAY TO PROVIDE THERE'S A WAY TO PROVIDE THAT ENVIRONMENT AT HOME. THAT ENVIRONMENT AT HOME. >> JOSE HAS ALREADY BEATEN >> JOSE HAS ALREADY BEATEN THE ODDS, BY ALL ACCOUNTS, THE ODDS, BY ALL ACCOUNTS, A SUCCESSFUL CAREER MASTER'S A SUCCESSFUL CAREER MASTER'S DEGREE. DEGREE. >> HUSBAND, FATHER OF FIVE. >> HUSBAND, FATHER OF FIVE. BUT SOMETHING IN HIM AND THOSE BUT SOMETHING IN HIM AND THOSE AROUND HIM POINTED HIM STRAIGHT AROUND HIM POINTED HIM STRAIGHT TO THE STARS. TO THE STARS. >> WHAT DO THEY HAVE THAT YOU >> WHAT DO THEY HAVE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE? DON'T HAVE? >> A BOY THAT WAS RAISED >> A BOY THAT WAS RAISED PICKING VEGETABLES IN THE PICKING VEGETABLES IN THE FIELDS OF CALIFORNIA ONE DAY, FIELDS OF CALIFORNIA ONE DAY, BECOMING THE FIRST MIGRANT FARM BECOMING THE FIRST MIGRANT FARM WORKER TO MAKE IT TO SPACE. WORKER TO MAKE IT TO SPACE. HE DIDN'T JUST SHOOT FOR HE DIDN'T JUST SHOOT FOR THE STARS. THE STARS. HE FOUND HIMSELF AMONG THEM. HE FOUND HIMSELF AMONG THEM. AND I WANT TO ASK YOU. AND I WANT TO ASK YOU. WAS IT WORTH IT BEING ABLE WAS IT WORTH IT BEING ABLE TO SEE THE EARTH FROM A UNIQUE TO SEE THE EARTH FROM A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE. PERSPECTIVE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LITTLE OVER YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LITTLE OVER 500 PEOPLE HAVE HAD 500 PEOPLE HAVE HAD THAT PRIVILEGE AT 7 BILLION. THAT PRIVILEGE AT 7 BILLION. I MEAN, THIS IS A PRIVILEGE. I MEAN, THIS IS A PRIVILEGE. BIGGER THAN BEING A BIGGER THAN BEING A PRESIDENT OF A COUNTRY OR A NBA PRESIDENT OF A COUNTRY OR A NBA OR NFL FOOTBALL PLAYER. OR NFL FOOTBALL PLAYER. I MEAN, THIS IS THE ODDS ARE A I MEAN, THIS IS THE ODDS ARE A LOT HARDER. LOT HARDER. YES, OF COURSE IT WAS WORTH IT. YES, OF COURSE IT WAS WORTH IT. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. AT THIS PHASE OF LIFE, JOSE AT THIS PHASE OF LIFE, JOSE SAYS HIS MISSION IS SHIFTING. SAYS HIS MISSION IS SHIFTING. FOR YOU, I CAN TELL LIKE FOR YOU, I CAN TELL LIKE YOU LIGHT UP WHEN YOU'RE SAYING YOU LIGHT UP WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO SCHOOLS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO SCHOOLS OR ENGAGEMENTS OR KIND OF RIGHT OR ENGAGEMENTS OR KIND OF RIGHT NOW TALKING TO YOUTH NOW TALKING TO YOUTH ABOUT SPECIFICALLY GETTING INTO ABOUT SPECIFICALLY GETTING INTO STEM CAREERS. STEM CAREERS. YES. YES. WHY IS THAT SO TO YOU? WHY IS THAT SO TO YOU? KIDS SEE PEOPLE SOMEONE KIDS SEE PEOPLE SOMEONE THAT LOOKS LIKE THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT LOOKS LIKE THEM, YOU KNOW, BROWN SKIN SPEAKS ENGLISH BROWN SKIN SPEAKS ENGLISH WITH AN CAME FROM HUMBLE WITH AN CAME FROM HUMBLE BEGINNINGS. BEGINNINGS. AND I WANT THEM TO FEEL AND I WANT THEM TO FEEL EMPOWERED TO SAY IF HE COULD DO EMPOWERED TO SAY IF HE COULD DO IT, WHY CAN'T I? IT, WHY CAN'T I? >> HOW INSPIRING. >> HOW INSPIRING. OUR THANKS TO. OUR THANKS TO. AND STILL TO COME FOR US, SHE AND STILL TO COME FOR US, SHE SPENT LONGER IN SHELTER THAN SPENT LONGER IN SHELTER THAN ANY OTHER PET, BUT NOW ANY OTHER PET, BUT NOW SHE'S FOUND A FAMILY. SHE'S FOUND A FAMILY. IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THIS DABC NE SHE'S FOUND A FAMILY. IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THIS DABC NS SHE'S FOUND A FAMILY. IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THIS DABC NL SHE'S FOUND A FAMILY. IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THIS DABC NV SHE'S FOUND A FAMILY. IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THIS DABC N. SHE'S FOUND A FAMILY. IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THIS DABC N IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THIS DABC N >> I HAVE FAVORITES NOW. >> I HAVE FAVORITES NOW. >> SHE HELD THE TITLE NO DOG >> SHE HELD THE TITLE NO DOG WANTS HUMANE SOCIETY OF WEST WANTS HUMANE SOCIETY OF WEST MICHIGAN'S LONGEST RESIDENT, MICHIGAN'S LONGEST RESIDENT, BUT NOW A FOUR YEAR OLD PIT BUT NOW A FOUR YEAR OLD PIT BULL MIX NAMED KIMMY KIBLER, BULL MIX NAMED KIMMY KIBLER, WHO WAS SAVED FROM WHO WAS SAVED FROM A DOGFIGHTING RING, HAS FOUND A DOGFIGHTING RING, HAS FOUND A HOME TO CALL HER OWN. A HOME TO CALL HER OWN. REPORTER. REPORTER. RILEY MACK. RILEY MACK. FROM OUR PARTNER STATION WBEZ FROM OUR PARTNER STATION WBEZ HAS TONIGHT'S LOCAL. HAS TONIGHT'S LOCAL. KIMMY GIBBLER IS THE ARTIST. KIMMY GIBBLER IS THE ARTIST. CATCH THE BALL, COME BACK. CATCH THE BALL, COME BACK. DROP THE BALL. DROP THE BALL. COME BACK. COME BACK. SITTING IN HER NEW YARD, LOWELL SITTING IN HER NEW YARD, LOWELL IN THE FINAL CHAPTER OF AN EPIC IN THE FINAL CHAPTER OF AN EPIC COMEBACK. COMEBACK. THAT'S KIND OF THE STORY THAT'S KIND OF THE STORY RIGHT THERE. RIGHT THERE. A STORY THAT STARTS A STORY THAT STARTS WITH GORING. WITH GORING. I WAS THERE WHEN KIMMY CAME IN, I WAS THERE WHEN KIMMY CAME IN, ACTUALLY, AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY ACTUALLY, AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF WEST MICHIGAN. OF WEST MICHIGAN. >> SHE'S SUPER RESILIENT. >> SHE'S SUPER RESILIENT. KIMMY WAS RESCUED FROM KIMMY WAS RESCUED FROM A DOGFIGHTING RING. A DOGFIGHTING RING. THAT FACE OF AN ANGEL. THAT FACE OF AN ANGEL. SCARRED BY HER DEMONS. SCARRED BY HER DEMONS. I DON'T THINK HUMANS HAVE I DON'T THINK HUMANS HAVE TREATED HER THE BEST IN THE TREATED HER THE BEST IN THE PAST, BUT SHE IS SO FORGIVING. PAST, BUT SHE IS SO FORGIVING. SHELTER STAFF. SHELTER STAFF. SAY IT MAY BE WHY KIMMY SAY IT MAY BE WHY KIMMY IS THERE LONGEST STAY ANIMAL IS THERE LONGEST STAY ANIMAL HISTORY. HISTORY. >> SHE'S BEEN THERE TWO YEARS. >> SHE'S BEEN THERE TWO YEARS. WHAT? WHAT? >> NO DOG DESERVES THAT UNTIL >> NO DOG DESERVES THAT UNTIL CAROL AND JAY SHERWOOD HEARD CAROL AND JAY SHERWOOD HEARD HER STORY. HER STORY. SHE CAME IN LIKE A TORNADO SHE CAME IN LIKE A TORNADO AND SHE HASN'T SLOWED DOWN AND SHE HASN'T SLOWED DOWN SINCE. SINCE. >> THEY JUST LOST THEIR LAST >> THEY JUST LOST THEIR LAST GIRL, MOLLY. GIRL, MOLLY. NO MORE DOGS. NO MORE DOGS. >> WE'RE TOO OLD. >> WE'RE TOO OLD. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER DOG. DOG. WHEN AN UNEXPECTED NEW WAS WHEN AN UNEXPECTED NEW WAS FOUND, WE DO THAT EVERY DAY. FOUND, WE DO THAT EVERY DAY. A COUPLE OF TIMES. A COUPLE OF TIMES. >> I HATE TO EVEN CALL HER AN >> I HATE TO EVEN CALL HER AN ANIMAL. ANIMAL. SHE'S MY GIRL. SHE'S MY GIRL. THE REASON SHE WAS UNADOPTABLE THE REASON SHE WAS UNADOPTABLE NOW, THE REASON SHE'S SO ADORED NOW, THE REASON SHE'S SO ADORED IS WITH HAVING HER HOME IS WITH HAVING HER HOME AND LOOKING AT HER. AND LOOKING AT HER. THOSE FRECKLES. THOSE FRECKLES. SHE'S REALLY CUTE. SHE'S REALLY CUTE. >> FINALLY HOME WITH NEW OWNERS >> FINALLY HOME WITH NEW OWNERS AND THE DOG THAT OWNS AND THE DOG THAT OWNS THEIR HEARTS. THEIR HEARTS. >> I BELIEVE DESTINY. >> I BELIEVE DESTINY. AND I FEEL LIKE THERE WERE JUST AND I FEEL LIKE THERE WERE JUST TOO MANY COINCIDENCES THAT ALL TOO MANY COINCIDENCES THAT ALL CAME TOGETHER. CAME TOGETHER. >> SHE'S BEEN WAITING FOR >> SHE'S BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEBODY JUST LIKE THESE TWO. SOMEBODY JUST LIKE THESE TWO. KIMMY ONCE FIGHTING FOR KIMMY ONCE FIGHTING FOR HER LIFE IN THE RING, NOW HER LIFE IN THE RING, NOW FIGHTING FOR MORE SCRATCHES FIGHTING FOR MORE SCRATCHES ON THE COUCH. ON THE COUCH. >> SHE WAS MEANT TO BE HERE. >> SHE WAS MEANT TO BE HERE. >> CONGRATULATIONS TO THE >> CONGRATULATIONS TO THE ENTIRE KIMMY GIBBLER FAMILY. ENTIRE KIMMY GIBBLER FAMILY. AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR TONIGHT. TONIGHT. I'M JUJU CHANG. I'M JUJU CHANG. 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