IN ENGLAND. >> DIANE ALL RIGHT. >> DIANE ALL RIGHT. COMPLICATED EVA PILGRIM THANK COMPLICATED EVA PILGRIM THANK YOU. YOU. LET'S BRING IN ABC NEWS LEGAL LET'S BRING IN ABC NEWS LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR AND TRIAL CONTRIBUTOR AND TRIAL ATTORNEY BRIAN BUCKMIRE FOR ATTORNEY BRIAN BUCKMIRE FOR MORE. MORE. >> BRIAN SOPHIE TURNER SUING >> BRIAN SOPHIE TURNER SUING JOE JONAS FOR WRONGFUL JOE JONAS FOR WRONGFUL RETENTION. RETENTION. >> WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? >> WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? YEAH. YEAH. SO WRONGFUL DETENTION IS WHEN SO WRONGFUL DETENTION IS WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY OR YOU KEEP YOU TAKE AWAY OR YOU KEEP THE CHILDREN IN A WAY THE CHILDREN IN A WAY THAT CONCEALS OR BREACHES THAT CONCEALS OR BREACHES THE CUSTODIAL CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CUSTODIAL CONTRACT BETWEEN PARENTS. PARENTS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WERE SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WERE TO TAKE MY SON BACK TO WHERE TO TAKE MY SON BACK TO WHERE I LIVE IN CANADA AND DON'T I LIVE IN CANADA AND DON'T ALLOW MY WIFE TO HAVE ACCESS TO ALLOW MY WIFE TO HAVE ACCESS TO HIM, THAT WOULD BE WRONGFUL HIM, THAT WOULD BE WRONGFUL RETENTION. RETENTION. AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A CUSTODY ORDER TO DO SO. A CUSTODY ORDER TO DO SO. THIS IS AN INTERNATIONAL LAW THIS IS AN INTERNATIONAL LAW THROUGH THE HAGUE CONVENTION THROUGH THE HAGUE CONVENTION THAT SAYS YOU MIGHT JUST NEED THAT SAYS YOU MIGHT JUST NEED PROOF OF MARRIAGE OR JUST PROOF PROOF OF MARRIAGE OR JUST PROOF OF BIRTH. OF BIRTH. >> NOW, SOPHIE TURNER SAYS >> NOW, SOPHIE TURNER SAYS IN THESE COURT FILINGS THAT THE IN THESE COURT FILINGS THAT THE COUPLE HAD ENTERED INTO COUPLE HAD ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT TO SELL THEIR MIAMI A CONTRACT TO SELL THEIR MIAMI HOME AND MAKE ENGLAND HOME AND MAKE ENGLAND THEIR PERMANENT HOME. THEIR PERMANENT HOME. >> HOW WILL THAT IMPACT THIS >> HOW WILL THAT IMPACT THIS CASE? CASE? KNOW THE TERM YOU'RE GOING KNOW THE TERM YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT. TO HEAR A LOT. AND WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THIS AND WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THIS STORY AND LISTEN TO THE FILING STORY AND LISTEN TO THE FILING IS A OR HABITABLE HABITABLE IS A OR HABITABLE HABITABLE RESIDENCE. RESIDENCE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THIS CONVENTION IS BECAUSE THIS CONVENTION THAT I'M TALKING, IT'S A THAT I'M TALKING, IT'S A SPECIFIC CLAUSE CALLED SPECIFIC CLAUSE CALLED THE CHILD ABDUCTION CLAUSE THE CHILD ABDUCTION CLAUSE IN THE HAGUE CONVENTION SAYS IN THE HAGUE CONVENTION SAYS THAT THE CHILDREN, WHEN THAT THE CHILDREN, WHEN THEY'RE UNDER THE AGE OF 16, THEY'RE UNDER THE AGE OF 16, THEY'RE CREATE THIS THIS REMEDY THEY'RE CREATE THIS THIS REMEDY FOR PARENTS TO FIND OUT WHERE FOR PARENTS TO FIND OUT WHERE THE HABITABLE RESIDENCE OF THAT THE HABITABLE RESIDENCE OF THAT CHILD IS. CHILD IS. SO JOE JONAS IS GOING TO ARGUE SO JOE JONAS IS GOING TO ARGUE THAT CHILDREN, SINCE 20 AND THAT CHILDREN, SINCE 20 AND 2022, WHEN THEY WERE BORN, HAVE 2022, WHEN THEY WERE BORN, HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THE U.S. BEEN LIVING IN THE U.S. BUT SOPHIE TURNER IS SAYING BUT SOPHIE TURNER IS SAYING THAT IN APRIL THEY MOVED THAT IN APRIL THEY MOVED TO ENGLAND AFTER LIFE TO ENGLAND AFTER LIFE IS CONSUMED WITH ENGLAND ON A IS CONSUMED WITH ENGLAND ON A DAY TO DAY LIVING. DAY TO DAY LIVING. AND AGAIN, HER CONTRACTS HEARD AND AGAIN, HER CONTRACTS HEARD ABOUT CONTRACTS, ABOUT LIVING ABOUT CONTRACTS, ABOUT LIVING THERE FOR A LONG TERM AND THEN THERE FOR A LONG TERM AND THEN ULTIMATELY BUYING A HOME. ULTIMATELY BUYING A HOME. >> SO THEY'RE BOTH TRYING >> SO THEY'RE BOTH TRYING TO PROVE WHERE IS A RESIDENCE TO PROVE WHERE IS A RESIDENCE OF THESE CHILDREN. OF THESE CHILDREN. SO, BRYAN, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT SO, BRYAN, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT HERE? HERE? >> YES. >> YES. SO THE WOULD STEP IN AND SO THE WOULD STEP IN AND WHAT THEY SAY IS THEY TRY WHAT THEY SAY IS THEY TRY TO CREATE A BIT OF A COMMON TO CREATE A BIT OF A COMMON AREA FOR BOTH PARTIES TO COME AREA FOR BOTH PARTIES TO COME AND SPEAK AND PROVE OR AT LEAST AND SPEAK AND PROVE OR AT LEAST PROVIDE INFORMATION AS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AS TO IS THE BEST PLACE FOR THESE IS THE BEST PLACE FOR THESE CHILDREN TO RESIDE. CHILDREN TO RESIDE. NOW, THE CASE IS FILED IN THE NOW, THE CASE IS FILED IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. THAT'S IN MANHATTAN, NOT TOO THAT'S IN MANHATTAN, NOT TOO FAR FROM WHERE YOU. FAR FROM WHERE YOU. AND SO INTERNATIONAL LAW AND SO INTERNATIONAL LAW WILL APPLY BOTH FOR ENGLAND WILL APPLY BOTH FOR ENGLAND AND THE U.S., WHERE BOTH AND THE U.S., WHERE BOTH PARTIES WILL TRY TO DETERMINE PARTIES WILL TRY TO DETERMINE OR TRY TO ARGUE WHERE OR TRY TO ARGUE WHERE THAT RESIDENCE IS FOR THAT RESIDENCE IS FOR THE CHILDREN. THE CHILDREN. BASED ON THE EVIDENCE BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT WE'RE HEARING, WHERE THAT WE'RE HEARING, WHERE THEY EXPECTED TO LIVE, WHERE THEY EXPECTED TO LIVE, WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING. THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING. AND THEN FROM THERE THEY WILL AND THEN FROM THERE THEY WILL TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOME SORT TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOME SORT OF CUSTODY